X-Message-Number: 20051 Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 08:43:31 -0400 From: Thomas Donaldson <> Subject: CryoNet #20037 - #20049 Hi everyone! Here I am again. I note that John Grigg may be joking when he gives his own answer about God as an old man. As for substitutes for oil, I will make some points. First of all, several companies have produced advanced fuel cells, which can take hydrogen and turn it into water + electricity. Several of these have already been installed in city buses in various US cities and overseas. There is already at least one company that has a much cleaner and easier way to create hydrogen from oil, gas, etc, and hold and dispose of the remainder. But perhaps most interesting, it is the OIL COMPANIES who have taken considerable steps toward finding alternatives for oil. Why? Because 2030 is hardly far away, and none of them want to simply vanish when we reach 2030. What would you do if you wanted your company to last? (And it's not as if an oil company would suddenly vanish on 1 January 2031. It would have to deal with higher and higher priced oil, and would probably lose out in the market well before 2030 came round). Just some comments. I'll refer to co reports etc if asked. Best and long long life for all, Thomas Donaldson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=20051