X-Message-Number: 20122 From: "Mark Plus" <> Subject: "False X" doesn't necessarily imply nonempty "True X." Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:42:05 -0700 In Message #20110, writes: >LaTorra<<What this all comes down to, in my opinion, is that mystical experiences can be induced technologically. While this does not disprove the independent existence of a deity (that's a different philosophical problem), it brings into question millennia of reports from "god-experiencers" about what they were "told" to reveal to the rest of us.>> >d: do synthetic rubies bring into question the existence of "natural" >rubies? Bad analogy. No one disputes the existence of rubies. A few years ago one of those psychic telephone scams advertised that it had "real psychics." Don't be taken in by those impostors working for the competition! Of course, if no one can demonstrate "psychic" powers under scientically controlled conditions, the set of "real psychics" can be meaningly defined in reference to the set of "false psychics." The set just happens to be empty, as far as modern science can tell. I happen to find all this talk of "mystical" & "spiritual" experiences baffling. I have no clue what such people are mouthing off about. Mark Plus It's not "religious" or "science fictional" if you can do it. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=20122