X-Message-Number: 20200
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 10:36:39 -0700
From: James Swayze <>
Subject: Damn my eyes--Empathy for John Henry
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> Message #20190
> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 06:11:31 -0700
> From: James Swayze <>
> Subject: cCotact info to rebut Tim Sullivan, well sort of


Damn, looks like I need a spell checker for my title bar or new eyes. LOL! 
Should have
read Contact info not 'cCotact'.

> Message #20191
> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:26:18 -0500
> From: Trent <>
> Subject: Ted Williams - Shouldn't we do something?
>
> Hello,
>
> I am watching all the negative publicity from this, and it is quite obvious
> that this is a dysfunctional family that is grasping at straws to sue each
> other. It wouldn't matter how he had been buried. This sick woman is trying
> to whip up anti-Cryonics bigotry in the same way that a nazi would to
> "prove" their point about racial inferiority to obtain political power.
>
> Why don't we (hint: we means ALL of us - Alcor, CI, etc.) have a web site
> set up with a rebuttal, just for this purpose? Between us someone should be
> able to set up a nice site.

I agree. This is a good idea and I'd be glad to contribute perhaps artwork or

articles--facts to be proof checked by cryonics experts of course. I'm tired of 
the peanut

gallery getting all the say, let's have some balance. It's simply incredible how
short

sighted and I'd even say stupid the so called science experts are that these so 
called

journalists (insert propagandists) drag out to pooh pooh cryonics. With all that
is going
on in the nanotechnology field, how in the world can they lack vision enough to
extrapolate it's use for the freezing damage issue? The ones that harbor latent

superstitions about the soul, in other words comments like "once your dead 
there's nothing

to bring back" and statements like this, are in my opinion not scientists at 
all... at
least not practicing scientific method.

> I'll even spring for the $30 to register and host the domain.
>
> We need to portray this woman (AND her brother?) for what they are - both
> greedy, ungrateful spoiled children who will do, or say, anything for a
> dollar.


This I disagree with. DFTP is right John Henry is a hero. I do not believe the 
stories

about him. I've paid close attention and it seems to me in every case the people
bad

mouthing him had monetary or other motives of their own strong enough to make 
them lie or

exaggerate greatly. Point in fact both of the caregivers fired by him obviously 
resented

his action and had cause to lie. The fact that the girlfriend of one of them, 
described as

"statuesque" and as "having loved Ted very much" declined to talk even to back 
up the

boyfriend's claims. The preponderance of evidence to me points to him lying. If 
she did

love Ted so then why not back up her boyfriend's tales of abuse? If those tales 
were true

then backing up those claims would be in Ted's best interest and in line with 
said love
and care for his well being. It's obvious to me they were lies or at best gross
exaggerations or plain misunderstandings.


In the case of John Henry's business dealings with the autograph and memorabilia
community

they resent his strict efforts to control his fathers name. Sometimes he was 
wrong about

some or a few accusations of fraud but how could he know? If it were my father 
I'd have

done the same thing to protect his interests especially if he'd been taken 
advantage of

before, as I believe was the case before JH came on the scene. Who cares if a 
couple

accusations out of many were wrong, he stopped many that were using his father's
name

wrongly. So he's not the keenest business minded person on the planet that 
doesn't justify

accusing him of the ridiculous claims that he meant to clone his father or sell 
his DNA.
Those claims don't even pass the simple logic test.


As his father declined it is said that John Henry began to restrict access to 
Ted much to

the consternation of Ted's friends and the press. Was this sinister? No way! It 
was made

to look so but it was the right thing to do. I can imagine his friends and 
acquaintances

and hangers on as maybe being a rowdy crowd. Maybe not but someone in such 
decline is

tired by even quite visits. I know from personal experience that sometimes when 
I'm not at

my best the last thing I want to see is a friend. I have to put up a front and 
not look so

bad or smile when I'd rather be crying. This is so the friend doesn't worry too 
much or
ask impossible to answer questions. One wishes not to leave a friend with a bad
impression.


Sometimes, most times, people don't deal well with sickly people. They sometimes
don't

understand the sick person's coping techniques... may even accuse family members
and

caregivers of not doing their best when actually they are doing what they can. 
Some things

are beyond human ability but people that just visit sporadically don't see 
everything and

make certain assumptions out of ignorance. Twenty three years of quadriplegia 
has made me

an expert in this area. John Henry was right to restrict access to his father 
and let's be
plain about it, his dying father.


When judging John Henry one must be careful to pay close attention to what the 
motives of

the naysayers are. Is this or that statement motivated by jealousy, resent, 
profit,

seeking notoriety, seeking fame, 15 more minutes in the spotlight (especially 
for long

forgotten once famous and in the spotlight no longer sports notables), a 
Pulitzer prize

even? How about wheedling oneself back into a last will and testament that they 
were cut
out of?

James

> Message #20192
> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 08:48:32 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Driven FromThePack <>
> Subject: reply to Trent
>
> trent wrote:
>
> >>>>
> Why don't we (hint: we means ALL of us - Alcor, CI,
> etc.) have a web site
> set up with a rebuttal, just for this purpose? Between
> us someone should be
> able to set up a nice site.
> >>>>
>
> Probably a good idea for cryonicists in general to
> whip up a press release for the media and counter all
> the, ahem, misinformation put out by certain parties
> with respect to the Williams affair.
>


I'll take it one further. Going on Trent's idea for a website, we could counter 
the

TedWilliamslastwish.org website with TedWilliamsreallastwish.org and solicit 
donations for

Alcor's legal fees should there be any over this. Or better yet 
saveTedWilliams.org. Then

people logging on thinking it's to rescue him from the "evil cryonicists" get 
confronted

by a well reasoned and short and convincing statement defending his suspension 
and
remaining so.

James
--
Cryonics Institute of Michigan Member!
The Immortalist Society Member!
The Society for Venturism Member!


MY WEBSITE: http://www.geocities.com/~davidpascal/swayze/ While there follow the
links to

photos of me and some of my artwork and a radio interview on Dr.  J's 
ChangeSurfer Radio

program with me and the father of cryonics Prof.  Robert Ettinger, author of 
"The Prospect
of Immortality".

A RELIGION I actually recommend: 
http://uk.geocities.com/venturist2001/index.html
A FAVORITE quote: Last lines of the first Star Trek the Next Generation movie.

Capt.  Picard: "What we leave behind is not as important as how we've lived, 
after all
Number One, we're only mortal."
Will Ryker: "Speak for yourself captain, I intend to live forever!"

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