X-Message-Number: 20510 From: Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 07:10:57 EST Subject: Re: CryoNet #20505 - #20507 (John, Peter, Joesph) --part1_163.17b82562.2b161051_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, To start, there are some example of technologies not favored or confiscated by our rullers: -Airships: Useless for war, able to destroy the stategic value of sea harbors: There has been a study (by the UN, I think) thatdisplay the economic value of different geographical regions, all the richest are near waterways. Big airships would destroy that, it can't be accepted by actual rullers. -Nuclear fussion technology: a military monopole. The Ulam's compression process could be used to make metastable materials with strenght hundred times anything we know today. Using "life game automatons" to carry single bit quantum computers in spin cooled nuclear matter would open the domain of hypercomputing. Using degenerate electron levels, we could build multinuclear "atoms with atomic number up to 1500 or so. All of that is possible now for more than half a century. Nothing has been done and nothing will be done. -Space: We are down to the point where even NASA fear to answer to religious saying that moon landings have been a Kubrick production. I am not the only to think along these ways: From : (William Mook) Date : 16 Aug 2002 15:33:48 -0700 << If you believe the focus of the US media is in part and at times led around issues by secret government agencies dedicated to maintaining political and economic stability by avoiding major difficulties like Civil Wars by controlling public attitudes toward critical public issues (akin to Nixon's CHAOS program of which Watergate was a part) - that could cause problems, then the answer is obvious. Space is trouble for the US and needs to be corraled - according to these folks. Some policymakers feel that space development has many negative geopolitical consequences for US policy and space development should be curtailed because of them. What are these negatives? (1) Avenue of missile (and if nuclear) nuclear proliferation; (2) Global and Extraglobal concerns take precedence over national concerns; (3) Space development is very expensive and can never make a profit;>> <...> << The idea of a human future in space was seriously shared among a few far forward thinking supporters at the end of the second world war. These ideas were immediately buried by the powers that be. The Russians moved forward with their program. Their success embarassed the powers that be. Space was used opportunistically by Kennedy for a successful bid at the White House. His futuristic space program resonated with many positive feelings of the American public, so Kennedy enunciated a positive vision of a global future where space exploration replaced warfare as the way nations competed against one another. Kennedy was shot and his space program became a moon program, and once the moon was attained, space was forgotten. Space supporters were marginalized. Sputnik was the defining event of a generation in 1957, Star Wars release was the defining event of a generation in 1977 the same year von Braun died, in 1997 Iridium launched its first satellites. What will be the defining space related event in 2017? A return to the Moon? A landing on Mars? Don't hold your breath. More likely it will be an anti-technical cult movement that successfully disrupts a NASA launch or the GAO finally getting its way and shutting down the space agency for good, or even the commercial abandonment of all space based assets. Or maybe all three. >> Our rullers have no limits: First they use opinion control, then they go to coercission and then they kill, including elected Presidents. When I learned about Sept 11 2001, my reaction was: Sad they have not choosen Vatican The work remains to be done! You don't choose your foes, they choose for you. Kill or be killed, in the end that is the world where we live in. If you are not convinced, look at how behave scientology for example. Science and technology is not a faith: It is the way the Universe work. Earth is a limited domain with limited ressources, if we loss time, ressources and energy in faith, then we are condemned. You can launch a world wide directTV-satcom network and distribute free 3 billions receptors all over the world. You can then use that network for teaching science and technology or you can nuke the Afganistan-Pakistan border + Somalia + ... And then get ride of current states, christian churches, oil multinationals,.... It is one, the other or death. Yvan Bozzonetti. Yvan Bozzonetti. --part1_163.17b82562.2b161051_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=20510