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Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 14:55:09 EST
Subject: Re: #20521 Force and the Future 

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From Mike Perry:
> Force, 
> regrettably, may be justified or called for in certain circumstances, such 
> as defending innocent lives from harm or death, but it should certainly be 
> kept to a minimum

I have no faith in time travel, but a day I was carried in a talk about it. 
One person argued that it is possible ( indeed, general relativity allows it 
in some spaces with exotic properties - see Hawkings in: A brief History of 
Time-). Another person told that it was impossible and we have a proof of 
that: We know of nobody comming from the future.
My contribution can be summarized as: This is not a proof, our epoch is known 
as "the Hell" and nobody want to come here. This was taken as a joke, it 
was'nt.

Our knowledge of the brain are slim, but sufficient to lacalize conciousness 
in a primitive area, not particularly expanded in man. Many "inferior" 
species have a "conciousness area" larger or more evolved than our. Imagine 
then that in a far away future ( where time travel is assumed possible) 
conciousness value is taken as superior to bank account. Hunting mammals or 
birds would be seen as legal crime, hunters as nazis SS today,... who would 
come in such a barbarian era? Travel to such an epoch could even be forbiden, 
time visitors would be far too much tempted to erase that so noxious species. 
Unfortunately, at that epoch, man is the only technical species and billions 
of years of civilization rest on these bad beasts. So they can't be wipped 
out notwistanding their trail of crimes. 

We are here at the bottom of hell, what can we do?

Nuke them all?

Yvan Bozzonetti.

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