X-Message-Number: 20684 Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 09:56:06 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Skrecky <> Subject: 75'th update on fly longevity experiments This is the 75'th update of my fly longevity experiments. Average temperature was 25.5 C during this run. Here I examine the effect of fly population size on survival, and its (possible) interaction with taurine dosage. Please note that I usually add 1 gram of taurine to 20 grams of 4-24 fly food per bottle, to act as a nontoxic larvicide. As it turned out, taurine dosage had no consistent effect on longevity, so the results for this run are listed below, in fly number order. In theory one might anticipate three population effects. Maximum lifespan should be increased, if more flies are used, since extremely old flies are expected to be few and far between. On the other hand a high population density might promote the transmission of pathogens between flies, and so average longevity would then be reduced if the population is too high. Another negative effect from too high a population would be increased mating frequency, which would also act to reduce average longevity. From the data presented below it appears average longevity (see day 21) is increased if fly number is below about 20 flies. Maximal longevity displays a bimodal distribution, with fly numbers either below 10, or above 30 showing some advantage. I generally try to place between 15 and 30 flies in most of my runs. However due to the limited number of flies available from a single breeding bottle, increasing this number is not feasible. On the other hand, I'm uncomfortable statistically with reducing fly number to less than 10 per bottle. I'll have to try this experiment again, in the future, to see how robust this less-than-10-fly effect is. Run #75 No of Percent Survival on Day supplement Flies 9 16 21 26 32 39 44 51 56 63 ___________________________________________________________ taurine 1/2 gm 54 78 50 43 26 15 9 6 2 2 0 taurine 1 gm 54 70 44 31 19 13 4 4 4 0 - taurine 1/2 gm 33 73 55 45 33 15 9 9 3 0 - taurine 1 gm 24 54 29 29 25 13 8 4 0 - - taurine 1/2 gm 15 87 87 67 47 27 0 - - - - taurine 1 gm 11 73 73 64 27 27 9 0 - - - taurine 1/2 gm 9 89 89 67 56 44 11 11 11 0 - taurine 1 gm 6 100 67 50 50 50 33 33 33 0 - Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=20684