X-Message-Number: 20703 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 07:53:42 -0500 From: Thomas Donaldson <> Subject: CryoNet #20691 - #20702 For Michael Hartl: basically you're correct, but there are some details which are important. Monkeys have survived longterm if kept at NORMAL BODY TEMPERATURE for 16 minutes and also given special drugs (AL Bleyaert et al CRITICAL CARE MEDICINE 4(2)(1976) 130ff); other experiments suggest survival for even longer, even at normal body temperatures. The 1 hour normal temperature experiments of Hossmann and Sato are (or should be) famous among cryonicists, even though no effort was made to keep these animals alive long term. Cold isn't the only factor that can shut down destructive metabolism, but in many ways it is the simplest. Best wishes and long long life to all, Thomas Donaldson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=20703