X-Message-Number: 2076 Date: 07 Apr 93 14:51:59 EDT From: "Steven B. Harris" <> Subject: CRYONICS Last Thermopile Use.. Dear Cryonet: Before we toss the thermopile idea completely, I suppose I should point out that there is still one possible design to consider which makes use of them: If we can get a 50 C dif- ferential from them easily, as advertised, it might be possible to obtain -135 C temps in one thermoelectric stage, starting from a mechanically produced -79 C. The latter temp, which is dry ice temp, is the most commonly available temperature for ultracold freezers commercially, and such freezer systems are extremely common in research and should by now be maximally inexpensive for the temp gradient and power needed. A cold room, then, might run at -79, with each patient pod (and ethyl chloride) further cooled by Peltier devices to -135. Failure of the mechanical -79 refrigerator then could always be backed up by easily and universally available dry ice, and electrical failure could (as in other designs) be backed up by a diesel generators. Steve Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=2076