X-Message-Number: 20799
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 16:53:52 -0800 (PST)
From: "D. den Otter" <>
Subject: Freeze drying revisited

As part of my neverending quest to find cheap(er)
cryonics alternatives, I'm currently investigating
freeze drying. Some preliminary results of this
investigation (links, articles, pictures and some
suggestions) can be found at
http://www.transtopia.org/plastination.html#freezedry
Possibly the most comprehensive cryonics-related
freeze drying page on the web. ;)

Anyway, after digging up some very encouraging
postings by Mr. Skrecky, I came across the following
message, which essentially seems to be saying "dry
freezing is crap, forget about it".

http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/dsp.cgi?msg=11805
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 11:01:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Doug Skrecky <>
Subject: freeze drying, alcohol dehydration, osmotic
dehydration

[...]
"The best book on freeze-drying of entire animals is
one by Rolland  Hower from the Smithsonian Institution
entitled "Freeze-Drying Biological  Specimens: A
Laboratory Manual". Time to freeze-dry a human brain
at -30  C is 14 days. Weight loss was 80%. Note that
although tissue may look good when it is freeze-dried,
microscopic morphology of freeze-dried brain tissue is
**unacceptable** [emph. mine] due to its high lipid
content. Dehydration in alcohol gives vastly better
results, and is much cheaper. Alcohol destroys cell
membranes, but there is some evidence that lipid
friendly ethylene glycol could be used instead."
[...] 

What exactly is meant here by "unacceptable" -- how
bad exactly *is* this damage? Evidence? Is it worse
than with, say, straight freezing (as opposed to "gay
freezing")? Can't possibly be worse than burial, in
any case.

Assuming that freeze drying isn't *completely* useless
from an identity-preservation perspective, it could be
a very decent "poor man's" cryonics alternative. The
only really expensive part is the purchase (or
construction) of a freeze drying machine. Freeze Dry
Specialties, Inc's "Taxi-Dry" model, which could
easily handle a human brain (apparently they're
already being used for brain preservation by the
University of Nevada's medical school), costs about
$8,500, making it, afaik, one of the cheapest freeze
dryers available. Though obviously too expensive for
most individuals, $8,500 it is not a *huge* investment
risk for a cryonics organization, or for a group of 10
or more low-budget immortalists. Say that if you
include shipping etc. the thing costs $10,000 or so
(or a bit more if it has to be shipped overseas), that
would mean that a group of 10 people would pay $1,000
a piece, 20 people $500, and 50 $200. If so desired,
up to 3 freezer units can be linked to 1 vacuum pump,
so expanding the setup isn't as expensive as one might
expect.

According to a source mentioned by Mr.Skrecky in one
of his postings, "Freeze-drying of a formalin fixed
1386 gram human brain took just 28 days at -30 C", and
according to the Taxi-Dry's manufacturer, [the unit]
"operates quietly on 110 Volt current for less than a
dollar per day." 28 bucks for a full treatment,
that's, well, *amazingly cheap*! Even 10 X as much
would still be quite affordable. There might be some
chemicals involved in the pre-treatment phase, but it
doesn't seem likely that these will cost more than a
few hundred USD/EURO per patient, possibly a lot less.

Finally, then, one would need some kind of sturdy
airtight container to place the brain(s) in, and a
regular household freezer for cold storage. Again,
taking into account that these things would be
purchased collectively or by a cryonics organization,
(or one could even use his own freezer for long-term
storage; most people have, or can afford, one of
those), this shouldn't add more than a few hundred
USD/EURO. Annual electricity costs for a regular
freezer are really negligible, even if it's an old and
relatively inefficient machine (the newer ones tend to
be very energy-efficient).

The end result would be a means of preservation that
actually costs *less*, or in any case not more, than a
straightforward burial or cremation. Cryonics for the
masses!

Btw, the freeze drying unit could be used for pet
preservation as well; in fact, purely "aesthetic" pet
preservation seems to be something of a growing
business (see links at website). It might not make you
rich, but by providing 3rd party pet preservation
services on the side you could further reduce the
overall costs. 

So, unless someone has hardcore evidence that freeze
drying will mess up your brain beyond all recognition,
I'd say let's get together on both sides of the pond
(or wherever), and start making some ice mummies!
---




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