X-Message-Number: 20811 From: "John de Rivaz" <> References: <> Subject: Re: Top Ten of Immortalist mailing lists and groups? Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 12:10:26 -0000 > From: Mike Perry <> > Subject: Cheaper Alternatives to Cryonics > I don't know if freeze-drying is a viable option but Mr. den Otter deserves > credit for his efforts to find a cheaper alternative to cryonics. I wish > such an alternative existed, and hope the efforts to find one and make it > available continue. I have always been in favour of providing people with a choice. Whether freeze drying is as likely to produce the required results of reanimation is clearly going to be controversial. Cryonics people are going to have a concern that if a cheaper option is available then people will use it for obvious reasons, but cheap is expensive if it is useless. However as both cryonics and any other methods rely on future science, no one can say with absolute certainty that any of these will work -- even relying on quantum mechanics to restore information from the past without there being a connection using physical matter at all, as discussed here recently. > (Should we start a forum for people with this special > interest?) What concerns me here is that the more reading matter there is on these subjects, the more people will have to decide which newsletters groups etc they will read. The LEF do a "top ten" of vitamin and other supplements. Maybe CryoNet should do a top ten of Immortalist mailing lists and groups? Also a top ten of web sites: The difficulty here is that some web sites are relatively infrequently, if ever, updated, some are updated on a fairly regular basis but only a few times a year (eg Longevity Report). These sites are almost a mailing list whose readers chose when to read rather than having it thrust at them. Some are updated nearly every day, such as New Scientist, http://www.newscientist.com. So, if you are interested in making lifespan indefinite and death optional, what is your top ten of mailing lists and your top ten of web sites on this subject? If you can't recommend as many as ten, then list as many as you think qualify. -- Sincerely, John de Rivaz: http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, Holistics, de Rivaz genealogy, Nomad .. and more Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=20811