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From: "John de Rivaz" <>
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Subject: Re: Top Ten of Immortalist mailing lists and groups?
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 12:10:26 -0000

> From: Mike Perry <>
> Subject: Cheaper Alternatives to Cryonics
> I don't know if freeze-drying is a viable option but Mr. den Otter
deserves
> credit for his efforts to find a cheaper alternative to cryonics. I wish
> such an alternative existed, and hope the efforts to find one and make it
> available continue.

I have always been in favour of providing people with a choice. Whether
freeze drying is as likely to produce the required results of reanimation is
clearly going to be controversial. Cryonics people are going to have a
concern that if a cheaper option is available then people will use it for
obvious reasons, but cheap is expensive if it is useless. However as both
cryonics and any other methods rely on future science, no one can say with
absolute certainty that any of these will work -- even relying on quantum
mechanics to restore information from the past without there being a
connection using physical matter at all, as discussed here recently.

> (Should we start a forum for people with this special
> interest?)

What concerns me here is that the more reading matter there is on these
subjects, the more people will have to decide which newsletters groups etc
they will read. The LEF do a "top ten" of vitamin and other supplements.
Maybe CryoNet should do a top ten of Immortalist mailing lists and groups?

Also a top ten of web sites: The difficulty here is that some web sites are
relatively infrequently, if ever, updated, some are updated on a fairly
regular basis but only a few times a year (eg Longevity Report). These sites
are almost a mailing list whose readers chose when to read rather than
having it thrust at them. Some are updated nearly every day, such as New
Scientist, http://www.newscientist.com.

So, if you are interested in making lifespan indefinite and death optional,
what is your top ten of mailing lists and your top ten of web sites on this
subject? If you can't recommend as many as ten, then list as many as you
think qualify.

--
Sincerely, John de Rivaz:  http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including
Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley
Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, Holistics, de Rivaz genealogy,
Nomad .. and more

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