X-Message-Number: 2083 Date: 09 Apr 93 07:09:49 EDT From: "Steven B. Harris" <> Subject: CRYONICS Fancy Thermal Ballasts Dear Cryonet: We'd need a conductive plate 1 meter thick, eh, Brian? Okay, I give up. The cooling fluid is going to need distribution; I believe you. I'm probably biased in my assessment of ethyl chloride from the fact that this liquid is used in medicine clinically as a local skin "chill" anaesthetic, and so I've gotten to work with it some. It has to be pressurized at room temp to stay liquid, but not by much (vapor pressure is 2 atm at 33 C, so says my Merck index). Commercially it's supplied in pretty ordinary glass bottles, which are (obviously) safe enough to ship (no, it doesn't come packed in ice). To use it you just lift a spring- loaded plug which seals a little siphon metal-spigot-tube that goes through the cap, and when you do this the liquid comes shooting out under mild pressure. Vaporization is very smooth-- no boiling or bumping in the bottle. It has a mild ether-like odor, and when you get it on your skin it evaporates quickly, leaving the skin very cold, but not frozen. All in all it seems rather benign stuff, at least if packaged in small containers. I wouldn't want to ride herd on a 5000 liter reservoir of it, certainly, but 100 10-liter sealed plastic containers distributed through a large room might not be too scary a proposition. I agree with Brian that it's too difficult to operate rooms above the ballast temperature, and so we'll have to use something other than ethyl chloride if -136 proves to be too cold. Ethyl bromide, maybe, as suggested. The heats of fusion are dis- appointing, aren't they? I don't have the numbers, but I can predict that heat of fusion for ethyl bromide will be similar to ethyl chloride per MOLE and per VOLUME, but (mostly because bromine is heavier) only about 60% as much per weight. Darn if I know how much the stuff costs commercially. Alcohols don't crystalize as well as halogenated hydrocarbons, I've found, and don't seem to have as well defined melting points, but they generally have higher heats of fusion. I'm thinking that if we can tolerate 5 or 10 degrees of warmup from the glass transition temp in an emergency (why not?) it may even be worth it to tolerate some fuzzy melting behavior to get a lot of ballast mass reduction and expense reduction. Remains to be seen; this is one experiment that just has to be done, and can't be predicted. If we can store as high as -117, or store at lower temps and dare to use a ballast at as high as -112 to -117, we can use plain old ethyl alcohol (shades of Ben Franklin and his preservative cask....), a compound which is dirt cheap, non- toxic, and theoretically nearly 60% better by weight (50% better by volume) than ethyl chloride as a thermal ballast. The other main candidate is n-propanol, which melts at -126 C and has 25% better performance then ethyl chloride on heat of fusion (I have to say, however, that this compound had a really lousy looking phase transition in my experiments). As has been mentioned already on the forum, there are additional simple (alkane or alkene) hydrocarbons which melt in the range we seek (like n-pentane), and most of these compounds have even better performance than alcohols on heat of fusion (this is a little weird, but I suppose that no additional hydrogen bonds to speak of are formed when alcohols freeze). However, all these exquisitely flammable hydrocarbons are too dangerously volatile for what we have in mind (you do break hydrogen bonds when alcohols evaporate, and that gives alcohols lower and safer vapor pressures by comparison with gasoline or pentane). Even with alcohols, however, and *especially* with ethyl chloride, our facility should have a Halon gas (CF3Br & CF2ClBr = Freons 1301 & 1211) fire extinguisher system on hand. Halons, like gasoline antiknock additives, damp ignition by releasing heavy halogen radicals which interfere with propagation of free radical chain reactions in flames (such compounds destroy the ozone layer in somewhat the same way), and because of this mechanism they work at very low concentrations (too low to be toxic-- many of us remember the Dupont commercial of years back where the man in a room with a little Halon in the atmosphere can't successfully strike a match). In fact, it occurs to me that the temperatures we propose to use in our system permit us to have the world's simplest and most foolproof Halon system ever: just tap off some Halon from commercial extinquishers, solidify it, and leave chunks lying around in strategic places (like near the walls) inside our cold room, along with the ballast and elsewhere. In the event of any accidental warmup and increase in flammable ballast vapor pressure toward flashpoint temperatures and concentrations, we'll then get automatic fire- /ignition damping as the Halon melts and vaporizes too. Fool- proof! Interestingly, one of the least volatile Halons, CHFClBr (Freon 2111), has a very low melting point of -115 combined with a relatively high boiling point of + 36 C, making it the best candidate of all the Freons to use for *ballast.* I suspect it's too expensive, however. Too bad, because a large amount of vented ballast Halon from a cold room under thermal stress might even put out a structure fire above it. The stuff is really potent. Steve Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=2083