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Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:08:04 EST
Subject: Re: Cryonet# 20922 Quantum linearity and uploading

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R. Ettinger said:

> And also Kosko's reminder, that quantum math is linear. The Schroedinger 
> wave 
> equation shows linear evolution over time. Since experience tells us that 
> linear relationships or rules have always turned out to be only 
> approximations, the current quantum math is probably only an approximation 
> at 
> best.
> 
This is built in the particle-wave duality, a fundamental quantum root. In 
differential geometry, the vector dual of a point (a particle) is an 
hyperplane, a subspace in N-1 dimension in a space with N dimensions. In 
ordinary 3 dim. space an hyperplane is simply a plane. It define a reference 
surface for a phase wave. Such a phase surface is a differential 0-form or a 
function, so all quantum mechanics is built on linear differential forms. To 
go beyond, you must shift to Violette's forms.

>And finally, the reminder that the Uploaders make the same mistake, assuming 

>the consequent. They think a computer could be a person because brains and 
>computers are both information processors--but they ASSUME without 
>justification that a brain is ONLY an information processor. In slightly 
>different words, they assume that isomorphism is all that matters. They 
could 
>possibly be right--but you can't prove it by assuming it.

As a uploader I must give some answers here:
For me, a brain *is an information processor*, I don't think a neural cell 
simulation on a general computer is a very good copy. FPGA could produce 
something better. I think the first some person recovered from deep freeze 
will be by non-destructive brain reading and will be uploaded in such 
electronics systems. Under that form and using robot bodies, they may be the 
main drive under a biological recovery.

Yvan Bozzonetti.



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