X-Message-Number: 20930 From: Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:08:04 EST Subject: Re: Cryonet# 20922 Quantum linearity and uploading --part1_6b.7a8c621.2b5ebc54_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit R. Ettinger said: > And also Kosko's reminder, that quantum math is linear. The Schroedinger > wave > equation shows linear evolution over time. Since experience tells us that > linear relationships or rules have always turned out to be only > approximations, the current quantum math is probably only an approximation > at > best. > This is built in the particle-wave duality, a fundamental quantum root. In differential geometry, the vector dual of a point (a particle) is an hyperplane, a subspace in N-1 dimension in a space with N dimensions. In ordinary 3 dim. space an hyperplane is simply a plane. It define a reference surface for a phase wave. Such a phase surface is a differential 0-form or a function, so all quantum mechanics is built on linear differential forms. To go beyond, you must shift to Violette's forms. >And finally, the reminder that the Uploaders make the same mistake, assuming >the consequent. They think a computer could be a person because brains and >computers are both information processors--but they ASSUME without >justification that a brain is ONLY an information processor. In slightly >different words, they assume that isomorphism is all that matters. They could >possibly be right--but you can't prove it by assuming it. As a uploader I must give some answers here: For me, a brain *is an information processor*, I don't think a neural cell simulation on a general computer is a very good copy. FPGA could produce something better. I think the first some person recovered from deep freeze will be by non-destructive brain reading and will be uploaded in such electronics systems. Under that form and using robot bodies, they may be the main drive under a biological recovery. Yvan Bozzonetti. --part1_6b.7a8c621.2b5ebc54_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=20930