X-Message-Number: 20937 From: <> Subject: Re: Perfect copies... again Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 0:06:56 -0500 I wonder how much of the wrestling with the idea of identity is related to the way in which we reproduce? It lends it self to the idea of a continuing father, continuing mother, and new-born; and each of these has traditionally been seen as having a soul which enters the body (or is created in it) at conception, or birth, or some point in between; and this soul then leaves the body at death. If we reproduced by amoeba-like fissioning, I doubt we would conceptualize the world in this way. One creature would divide into two creatures, each knowing they were not the other, but each having a legitimate claim to be the pre-existing single creature. The equality of fissioning (unlike the unequal human division into parent and egg) would militate against the idea of the individual soul in the way that we view it. How would one feel, on the point of fission? That one was going to die? No. That one was going to give birth? No. That one was going to become two individuals, each of which would be oneself, but the 'one'self would not be there any longer? That's my guess. Each of the fissioned beings would be continuous with the previous single one, but would diverge. Identical twins do this already, but they lack the continuity of memory necessary to impact our cultural views. I think our cultural views will change as technology produces ever more replication processes; and I suspect the concept of the soul will continue to fade away in the process. Robin HL Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=20937