X-Message-Number: 21048
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 13:58:30 -0800
From: James Swayze <>
Subject: The, ummmm 'why' of X's and Y's
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> Subject: comments on philosophy
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> A comment on philosophy - which I am a student.  It seems that several major
> philosophers have tried to make philosophy a branch of mathematics.  Others
> have tried to incorporate mathematics into philosophy.  In my on humble
> opinion, I think relying too much on mathematics is where most philosophers
> (even those of us on this forum) go wrong ( I do think it has some  limited
> uses).

I totally agree.

> There are just some ideas in philosophy that cannot be put into (or
> be solved by) mathematical formulas.
> Having said the above disclaimer, I would like to take a shot at disputing
> the following statement, that I recently saw on  Cryonet:  "No amount of
> mathematics can make an x be a y."
>        x = 5
>        y = 5
> therefore,  x = y
> Would this count?

I'm sorry but no. Could you substitue x for y in yxlaphone or May More, Max may 
no appreciate that <g>?

If you'll recall my exact words were: "No amount of math can make an X be a Y." 
The emphasis would rest upon the word _be_. But, hey, thanks for trying.

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