X-Message-Number: 21072 From: Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:11:45 EST Subject: ontology --part1_19d.10865a17.2b73d531_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yvan Bozzonetti writes in part: > In quantum mechanics, an observation don't implies that someone is here to > look at something That is Yvan's view, and mine, but by no means that of everyone. There is a relatively small school of thought, but not a negligible one--Eugen Wigner is the best known name--holding indeed that a CONSCIOUS observer must be present in order to actualize the potential existence of a system. As I said, some of these people even seriously claim that the universe would not exist except for the presence now of human observers. We validate it retroactively. This is slightly similar to the position of some medieval philosophers that the universe is maintained by the constant attention of God. Whether something could "exist" with no interactions is again an old dispute in philosophy, and hangs on definitions, the usual language problems, along with questions of what is possible "in principle" vs. in practice. Robert Ettinger --part1_19d.10865a17.2b73d531_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=21072