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Subject: 2nd CFV: sci.life-extension (and MASS ACK.)
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From: (brian manning delaney)
Date: 14 Apr 93 00:38:53 GMT
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This is the second CALL FOR VOTES for the proposed unmoderated Usenet
News group:
Sci.life-extension
(At the end of the CFV is the "mass acknowledgement" -- i.e., list of
people from whom I've received valid votes so far; check the list if
you want to be sure I got your vote.)
In the first CFV I said I was going to post two repeat CFVs (w/mass
acks), but there was such a long delay between the time I posted the
first CFV and the time it actually appeared (busy moderator[s]), that
there isn't enough time for two repeats, so this is the only repeat
CFV and mass acknowledgement that I'll post.
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After a lengthy discussion period in which all responses to the idea
of a group dealing with life extension were positive, here's the
(second) official Call for Votes to create the group,
sci.life-extension.
<> Charter
The newsgroup would be primarily for the discussion of techniques of
slowing, stopping, and reversing the aging process, from a practical
as well as theoretical standpoint. This includes, as
life-extensionists say, "adding life to years as well as years to
life;" i.e., we'll discuss not just techniques of "extending" what in
some cases might be a state of already senescent decrepitude, but also
ways of restoring and maintaining youth. (The name of the group
implies no stance on the merits of the book, "Life Extension," by
Pearson and Shaw.)
This topic has received increasing attention in recent years as
research gerontologists have begun to understand the mechanisms of
aging. As interest in this topic has grown, so has discussion on the
Net. The discussion has been scattered across a variety of newsgroups,
including bionet.molbio.aging, sci.cryonics, sci.med.nutrition, and
alt.psychoactives. None of these newsgroups is appropriate to a broad
discussion of life-extension:
The "bionet" groups are not carried by many sites. In addition, they
are designed as a medium of exchange for professional researchers,
whose professional needs should be respected by other (mostly amateur)
scientists. Moreover, the (intentionally) broad nature of the charter
is designed to create a forum for the discussion of life-extension
from a variety of scientific perspectives -- some falling within the
sphere of molecular biology, some within other areas of biology, and
some not in biology at all (but rather in psychology, cryonics, etc.).
Sci.cryonics specializes in only one technique of life extension.
Sci.med.nutrition and alt.psychoactives allow only the limited
discussion of life-extension that falls within the spheres of
nutrition and psychoactive drugs, respectively, and the emphasis of
each is not on life-extension *per se*. A new group would consolidate
the discussion, and would provide a more appropriate forum for the
more general issues related to longevity, which do not fall under the
purview of any current newsgroup.
<> Voting period.
The voting period began when the first CFV was posted (a couple of
weeks ago), and lasts until April 17th. Votes received after midnight
(CDST) on April 17th won't be counted.
<> How to Vote
To vote, mail to
To vote YES, put "YES sci.life-extension" in the subject header.
To vote NO, put "NO sci.life-extension" in the subject header.
If you use rn, trn, or something similar you can hit 'r' at the end of
this article and edit the "Subject:" header appropriately. (Don't
worry if in my address "midway" is replaced with something else when
you hit 'r'; it will still get to me.)
Other unambiguous mailings will also count, but it will be less work
for me if you follow the above instructions.
Ideally, your emailed vote would look like one of the following:
Subject: YES sci.life-extension
Subject: NO sci.life-extension
The final vote tally will be posted at the end of the vote. This final
tally will indicate how everyone voted so that people can correct
their votes if mistakes are found.
If anyone votes more than once only the most recent vote will count.
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<> Mass Acknowledgement of Valid Votes Received So Far.
This is a mass acknowledgement of the valid votes for and against the
proposed group, sci.life-extension, that I've received so far (as of
April 8, around 10:00 PM, CDST). The list is (approximately)
alphabetical by name in parentheses, except where I just have the
email address and not the name; the email addresses w/o names are at
the end. (Your vote counts whether or not I have your name.)
(Hardcore Alaskan)
(Ken Alexander)
(Alex Aumann)
(Ed Bailey)
(Franklin Balluff)
(Mr. Steven Barash)
(Edwin Barkdoll)
(Alan Barksdale (build))
(John H. Barlow)
(Ryan Bayne)
(Mignon Belongie)
(Olav Benum)
(Ross Beresford)
(Ben Best)
(James Blomgren)
(Gregory Bloom)
(Mark Brader)
(Eli Brandt)
(Joseph Brenner)
(Robert Cardwell)
(Dave Carr)
(Jeffrey CHANCE)
(Alexander Chislenko)
(Maynard S Clark)
(Mike Coleman)
(Steve Coltrin)
(John T. Collier)
(Curtis M. Compton)
(Bob Cook )
(Bruce Cordell)
(Cormier Jean-Marc)
(Douglas J. Coyle)
("John R Dassow-1")
(Bruce Davis)
(Kenneth Jubal DeMonn)
(Mark Desilets)
(David desJardins)
(Mark Diekhans)
(Kari Dubbelman)
lhdsy1!cyberia.hou281.chevron.com! (Dub Dublin)
(Will Dye)
(Dani Eder)
(Glenn Ellingson)
(Richard Farrar)
ghsvax! (Hal Finney)
(Lee Fogel)
(Foxx)
(sam frajerman,sppb,x3026,)
(Michael P. Frank)
(Tiffany Frazier)
(Tim Freeman)
(geoff george)
(Daniel Gijsbers)
(Serena Gilbert)
(Robert Lewis Glendenning)
(Phil Goetz)
(Chris Goolsby)
(David Gordon)
(Robert D Grahame)
(Cynthia Grant)
(Robert Greenstein)
(John A. Gregor)
(roger gregory)
(Ron Hale-Evans)
(Brent Hansen)
(Ron G. Hay)
(Anna K. Haynes)
claris!qm! (Robert Hearn)
(Francis Heylighen)
(P. Hindman)
(James B. Hutchins)
(Carwil James)
(Martin Janzen)
(Jeffery M Karp)
(Richard Kelly)
(Ed Kemo)
(KESSNER ERIC M)
(Mr R A Khwaja)
(Keith Koski)
(Kathi Kramer)
(Ben Krug)
(Rich Kulawiec)
(David Kunz)
(Stu Labovitz)
edsr!edsdrd! (Steve Langs)
(Stephen Lau)
(Philippe Lebrun)
(Henry Leong)
(Steve Linton)
(Alejandro Lopez 6330)
(Charles MacDonald)
(Robert C. Majka)
(Phil Marks)
(Cameron Marshall)
(Mike May ~)
(Bruce Maynard)
(Jay Maynard)
(john mccarrick)
(Ed McGuire)
(David McIntyre)
(Malcolm McMahon)
(John Mcpherson)
(Eric Messick)
(Perry E. Metzger)
(Gary R. Michael)
(Asker Mikael)
(Richard H. Miller)
(Marvin Minsky)
(Marc Moorcroft)
(Paul Morris)
(David Mosher)
(Mark Muhlestein)
(R. David Murray)
(Glenn A Nanney)
(Anthony Napier)
(Donald E. Niman)
(Richard Nistuk)
(Jonathan O'Donnell)
(Martin R. Olah)
(Eric J. Olson)
(Christopher Kashina Patil)
(Chris Payne)
(Sharon Peleg)
(Petur Henry Petersen)
(Herbert M Petro)
(Chris Phoenix)
(Brad Pierce)
("Julius Pierce")
(Mitchell Porter)
(Craig Presson)
(Michael Clive Price)
(Edward S. Proctor)
(Steve Pruitt)
(Michael Quinn)
(Patrick Rauss)
("Jan K. Remke")
(Barry H. Rodin)
(Karl R. Sackett)
(Richard Schroeppel)
(Frank Schulz)
(Karel W. Sebek)
(Brad Seewald)
(Thomas D. Shapard)
(Harry Shapiro)
(David Muir Sharnoff)
(Richard Shiflett)
(Elaine Shiner)
(Robert Shock)
(Rob Shvern)
(William Siegel)
(Kenton Sinner)
(Bob Smart)
(Shayne Noel Smith)
(Una Smith)
(Daniel L Snider)
(SNYDER GARY EDWIN JR)
(Brian Arthur Stewart)
lhdsy1!usmi02.midland.chevron.com! (Sigrid Stewart)
(Nathaniel Stitt)
(Tom Stockfisch)
(David Stodolsky)
(Steve Strong)
(Carey Sublette)
(Jeff Suttor)
(John Swain)
(Nick Szabo)
(Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS)
(Gunnar Thoresen)
(Andrew Trapp)
(Jerry Tunis)
(Rajeev Upadhye)
(Matthias Urlichs)
(Treon Verdery)
(Eric J Vore)
(Susan C Wade)
(Paul Wakfer)
(James Ward)
(John Werner)
(Jeremy M. Wertheimer)
(Bruce White 3807)
(Potter Wickware)
(Mark Wiedman)
(Elisha Wiesel)
(WILLING, PAUL)
(Steven Winikoff)
(Gregory G. Woodbury)
(D. Wright)
(David Wright)
(Stephen Wright 66667)
(Liquid-X)
(Michael G. Xakellis)
(Norman Yarvin)
(Bob Yazz)
(Leonard N. Zubkoff)
pase70!
-Brian Delaney.
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