X-Message-Number: 21213 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:31:27 -0800 (PST) From: Christine Gaspar <> Subject: regarding deathists --0-1974562836-1045801887=:90659 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I find it deeply disturbing to read about people who utterly reject cryonics as being immoral, disgusting, insane, etc. I read the latest cryonet posting where a "friend" of Ted Williams allegedly toured Alcor, and found it to be a terrible, unclean, horrific place, where Ted had to share a dewar with several other suspendees. I found that article to be extremely unprofessional in its presentation and clearly insulting of Alcor and its representatives. It becomes clearer to me that reporters / journalists who write about cryonics in such a manner obviously don't do enough fact checking. That is evidenced in the fact that they confuse cryonics with cryogenics. That alone tells me that they did not ask a single cryonicist anything before going to press and saying such insulting things about Alcor. I am repeatedly amazed by the inappropriateness of such articles, and the strong anti-cryonics sentiments. What is so terrible about not wanting to go to the grave? What is so immoral about taking one last shot at a longer life? Our society frowns upon euthanasia, murder and suicide. One would think that life extensionist ideas would be valued by this society. Just once I would like to look one of these reporters in the eye and ask him or her what is so bad about wanting to live longer. What is so repulsive about wanting to carefully prepare someone with chemicals to prevent cold and ischaemic damage, then place one's body in liquid nitrogen, rather than incinerating or burying it? I find it far more macabre to have one's loved one's ashes sitting in an urn on one's mantle. Or how about the concept of being eaten by worms? Is that better? Did we lose our fundamental right to having a belief system based on the hopes that science will ultimately save us, rather than trusting our fate to the gods? If cryonics was a religion (which it is not), then such articles could be likened to spreading hate in the press. I'm sorry if my strong opinions have offended anyone, but I am very offended with these attitudes. It stifles progress. For those people who wish for a traditional funeral, and live in the hopes that their souls will travel to an eternal paradise, I wish all of you good journey. But please do not ridicule my belief that when I die, that is the end of the road. I will do whatever I can to prolong my life as much as possible. I ask only for the same respect in return. Christine Gaspar --0-1974562836-1045801887=:90659 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=21213