X-Message-Number: 21322 From: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 12:39:31 EST Subject: Re: Turing tome --part1_19c.114f70f7.2b924a53_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit R. Ettinger said: > For one thing, as I have repeatedly pointed out, if you accept isomorphism > for matter and for space, why not also for time? But this leads to what I > have called the "Turing Tome," an enormous book in which each page > describes > the quantum state of the universe at a particular moment of time. The book > as > a whole represents, and therefore "is" the universe (or an emulation) > including its evolution over time--or whatever subset of the universal > history the simulation or emulation may contain. What you describe is the membrane paradigm of black holes: Something falling in a BH sees this falling direction bent in the time direction (as seen by a far away observer). So, for that observer the falling velocity gets smaller and smaller and the outer BH skin is a "book" made from the pilling up of all frozen instants in the BH history. Given that, for any mass, it is only a question of arbitrary observer inertial frame if a mass is seen as a BH or not, you are indeed entitled to think that all past instants in Earth history are frozen in its BH surface. We see the Earth as an "ordinary" planet because we are made of light particle, far from the gravitational dominated domain. If we would be made of supersymetric particles with near Planck's mass, we would see Earth as a quasi BH. This assume that near a BH horizon, anything is in free fall, given that even the strong nuclear force can't resist the gravitational pull here, this was assumed a safe bet. Yet it may be not. For an outside observer, falling electric charges would be turned into magnetic ones. The resulting field would be extraordinary strong and repel any in-falling object. This is the Magnetospheric Eternally Collapsing Object theory (MECO). See astro-ph at xxx.lanl.gov and search for MECO for references. The Hawking radiation is a weak emission by BH as seen from far away. There is a corresponding negative energy in-fall in the BH. If falling objects are slowed down by the MECO effect, that in-falling Hawking radiation would be strongly blue shifted and turn everything into hell. Werner Israel has demonstrated that this radiation would expand the BH mass as the cube of its radius, counted in Planck's length units. For example, for Earth, the far away gravitational radius is 1.5 cm or 10^33 Planck's lengths. At MECO level that radius would be: 10^99 PL or 10^48 light years, far, far beyond the universe we see in astrophysics. So, no you know: Hell is big, as has said RP Feynman: There is plenty of room under. Given that this mass is nearly exclusively negative energy, it would be the right stuff for making worm holes able to travel anywhere in space and time. To be sure, we are made of negative energy for hell world so our mass is what open WH to travel in hell. Really, we are far from the technology able to make practical use of such limit physics. It seems past is doomed to roast in hell, at least if you don't introduce more time-like dimensions. Yvan Bozzonetti. --part1_19c.114f70f7.2b924a53_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=21322