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Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 12:39:31 EST
Subject: Re: Turing tome

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R. Ettinger said:

> For one thing, as I have repeatedly pointed out, if you accept isomorphism 
> for matter and for space, why not also for time? But this leads to what I 
> have called the "Turing Tome," an enormous book in which each page 
> describes 
> the quantum state of the universe at a particular moment of time. The book 
> as 
> a whole represents, and therefore "is" the universe (or an emulation) 
> including its evolution over time--or whatever subset of the universal 
> history the simulation or emulation may contain.

What you describe is the membrane paradigm of black holes: Something falling 
in a BH sees this falling direction bent in the time direction (as seen by a 
far away observer). So, for that observer the falling velocity gets smaller 
and smaller and the outer BH skin is a "book" made from the pilling up of all 
frozen instants in the BH history.

Given that, for any mass, it is only a question of arbitrary observer 
inertial frame if a mass is seen as a BH or not, you are indeed entitled to 
think that all past instants in Earth history are frozen in its BH surface.

We see the Earth as an "ordinary" planet because we are made of light 
particle, far from the gravitational dominated domain. If we would be made of 
supersymetric particles with near Planck's mass, we would see Earth as a 
quasi BH.

This assume that near a BH horizon, anything is in free fall, given that even 
the strong nuclear force can't resist the gravitational pull here, this was 
assumed a safe bet. Yet it may be not. For an outside observer, falling 
electric charges would be turned into magnetic ones. The resulting field 
would be extraordinary strong and repel any in-falling object. This is the 
Magnetospheric Eternally Collapsing Object theory (MECO). See astro-ph at 
xxx.lanl.gov and search for MECO for references.

The Hawking radiation is a weak emission by BH as seen from far away. There 
is a corresponding negative energy in-fall in the BH. If falling objects are 
slowed down by the MECO effect, that in-falling Hawking radiation would be 
strongly blue shifted and turn everything into hell. Werner Israel has 
demonstrated that this radiation would expand the BH mass as the cube of its 
radius, counted in Planck's length units. For example, for Earth, the far 
away gravitational radius is 1.5 cm or 10^33 Planck's lengths. At MECO level 
that radius would be: 10^99 PL or 10^48 light years, far, far beyond the 
universe we see in astrophysics. So, no you know: Hell is big, as has said RP 
Feynman: There is plenty of room under.

Given that this mass is nearly exclusively negative energy, it would be the 
right stuff for making worm holes able to travel anywhere in space and time. 
To be sure, we are made of negative energy for hell world so our mass is what 
open WH to travel in hell.

Really, we are far from the technology able to make practical use of such 
limit physics.

It seems past is doomed to roast in hell, at least if you don't introduce 
more time-like dimensions.

Yvan Bozzonetti.

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