X-Message-Number: 21638 From: Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 09:48:56 EDT Subject: Fermi; simulation --part1_a1.376bdd32.2bd550c8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If advanced cultures could help the disadvantaged but choose to leave the jungle to its own devices, we have essentially the old problem of evil, with godlings instead of God. If WE achieve advanced powers, surely some of us, at least, will intervene on behalf of the lower animals, wherever they may be found. (But I don't think there is much force in Thomas Donaldson's argument that we will intervene for self protection, since the time lags are so great.) As to what we, as putative beings in a simulation, could do to find out more about our situation or influence it, I have said before that we could "pray." In other words, if we are in a simulation, then presumably there is a programmer paying attention, and we can signal to him. No guarantee of response, but if he felt like it he could pass a miracle and give us explanations or/and a better situation. Robert Ettinger --part1_a1.376bdd32.2bd550c8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=21638