X-Message-Number: 21690 From: Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 09:03:57 EDT Subject: elegance --part1_11b.21b06406.2bde80bd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I understand him correctly, Mike Perry thinks the (probable?) discreteness of physical phenomena implies or suggests the basically symbolic character of reality, with only relationships between discrete quantities having significance. I'm not sure I understand this. If it were true, it would seem to suggest that only one kind of "thing," plus one kind of relationship, is needed for as rich a universe as could be imagined. The "thing" could be a symbol or pair of symbols such as 0/1, and the relationship could be predecessor/successor. (The possibility of an artificial language along lines previously discussed fits in here, only in the ultimate concept the "language" is not a representation but is reality itself.) But what we think we observe isn't like this. We seem to observe several distinct kinds of things (elementary particles) and more than one kind of relationship (space and time dimensions). If the universe chose to manifest itself in a more elaborate way than necessary, we lose elegance. Of course, it is possible that the universe is not interested in our ideas of elegance. Robert Ettinger --part1_11b.21b06406.2bde80bd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=21690