X-Message-Number: 21727 Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 00:57:26 -0700 From: Mike Perry <> Subject: Francois' Thought Experiment Francois, #21720, proposes to gradually turn a person, expressed in the usual wetware, into equivalently functioning, bit-crunching, computer hardware. This would be done while the subject was fully conscious, with the change at each point not affecting that consciousness. This basic idea has been considered before, for example, in Hans Moravec's article on intelligent machines in the Feb. 1979 *Analog*. There he says, "[t]hough you have not lost consciousness, nor even your train of thought, your mind has been removed from the brain and transferred to the machine" (p. 80). Not a problem for me, in principle; some others disagree. Some, I think, fear the possibility that a person could turn into an unconscious zombie which was only imitating having feeling and consciousness. To me it seems there would be no way you could ever *prove* that an inorganic system that met certain tests and seemed to be conscious was not in fact conscious. So, as I've indicated before, I'd be likely to give the benefit of doubt, and also, to choose myself to be changed into something inorganic if it would offer advantages such as greater durability or better memory, increased intelligence and so on. Mike Perry Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=21727