X-Message-Number: 21771 Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 20:52:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Skrecky <> Subject: 88'th update on fly longevity experiments This is the 88'th update of my fly longevity experiments. Average temperature was 19.9 C during this run. Estimated maximal longevity using the formula (363 - T*11.2) is 140 days. Here I test NAD and niacin at doses higher than those used in run #85, with null results. I also tried retesting rice protein, both new and old batches. Previous results in run #56 suggest rice protein is active in prolonging fly lifespan mostly in the absence of citric acid, which had since become a standard addition, since this acid keeps the fly food "fresh" and thereby increases fly lifespan. Unfortunately I added a little extra water in the current run, in the mistaken belief that the protein might exert a dehydrating effect. Instead the surface of the fly food became slightly sticky, which past experience has warned me is not a good thing for fly longevity. In the presence of citric acid, the rice protein was slightly detrimental, due I believe to this excess moisture. In the absence of citric acid, I once again notice a puzzling benefit. Although at acid pH, absorption of protein is known to be reduced, I suspect the real reason citric acid counters rice protein, is that the acid pH destroys the active ingrediant(s) in rice protein. Run #88 Percent Survival on Day supplement 37 43 48 53 60 67 72 77 82 89 95 101 106 ___________________________________________________________________ control 68 64 41 36 32 14 9 0 - - - - - NAD 10 mg 33 33 27 20 13 13 0 - - - - - - niacin 100 mg 32 26 26 26 11 5 0 - - - - - - niacin 200 mg 26 22 13 9 9 4 0 - - - - - - rice protein, old 1 tsp 47 41 29 18 12 6 0 - - - - - - rice protein, new 1 tsp 40 35 20 20 15 5 0 - - - - - - rice protein, new 2 tsp 30 25 25 25 15 5 0 - - - - - - -no citric acid control 36 36 29 21 7 7 0 - - - - - - -rice protein, old 1 tsp 50 50 45 40 35 25 20 20 15 5 5 5 0 -rice protein, new 1 tsp 20 20 20 7 13 13 13 7 7 0 - - - -rice protein, new 2 tsp 31 15 15 8 8 8 8 8 0 - - - - Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=21771