X-Message-Number: 21858
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 09:06:11 -0400
From: Thomas Donaldson <>
Subject: CryoNet #21847 - #21857

Some comments:

1. For David Stodolsky, it is quite false that students of evolution
   believe that groups play any significant role in evolution of ANY
   creature. Try reading the works on evolution by GC Williams ---
   who incidentally pointed out that any group theory as a way of
   explaining aging would also fail. Like many older scientists,
   he's been writing more general books: I do not mean these but
   his earlier works.

2. For Kennita Watson: while I basically agree with you, I will add
   one important point. THE FUTURE IS NOT A SINGLE TIME AND PLACE.
   This basically tells us that so long as we remain frozen, lots
   of changes can happen and we can come out on the other end in
   very good health. If, for instance, they make genetic changes to
   everyone to make them superior to present humans, then our
   suspension need not be ended at that point, leaving us inferior
   versions of human beings. Just wait a bit and we'll be able to
   take on those changes as adults, with no trouble.

Just a few comments. As for libertarianism versus socialism, the
day will come when both are seen as ancient ideas. It's not that 
I claim to know what will come after (though I think its likely to
be an ADVANCE, not a backward movement), but that I'm making a 
general statement about how the history of ideas goes on. And yes,
it's interesting to speculate on the ideas which will follow
both of those philosophies. Current theories of how evolution 
works may give a key ... I knoqw that I started to think differently
about these issues after reading Williams and Hamilton, among 
                 Best wishes and long long life for all,

                       Thomas Donaldson

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