X-Message-Number: 2188 Date: 30 Apr 93 21:12:56 EDT From: Mike Darwin <> Subject: Patient Racking I wish to echo Charles Platt's comments about Brian's cavalier attitude about racking patients. Patients are not big homogenous blocks of ice that are interchangeable and may be cut from a frozen river with a chain saw when more are needed. Rather, they should be regarded as large masses of poorly reinforced and incredibly fragile glass. Furthermore, shame on Brain for assuming that water-cryoprotectant mixtures will behave like ice. No way, Jose. All that physics education...and it was apparently just wasted! In vitreous blocks of solution and in frozen water-cryoprotectant solutions just tapping on the container at -150*C can set off a wave of fracturing. Finally, while not wishing to beat a dead horse, I would point out a very simple experiment anyone with a soda bottle, a pencil, and a string can do. Attach the pencil to a length of string and try to lower the pencil into the container without it touching the neck. Now imagine that the pencil is a 70 kg man on the end of a wire cable. Unfortunately, I don't have to imagine it. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=2188