X-Message-Number: 21958 From: "Mark Plus" <> Subject: The True Death in the Post-Carbon Age Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:38:32 -0700 In Message #21954, Mike Perry writes, "Another thought too is that possibly we will be in for some economic hard times that will make liquid nitrogen hard to get for a long interval, as suggested by Mark Plus (#21945). In this case, a low-maintenance option such as chemo plus permafrost burial (or even very good chemo and plain conventional burial or some other high-temperature storage) could be the only hope." I think you misconstrue my point. Once we've squandered what's left of the planet's fossil thermodynamic capital, the human race faces a massive die-off and a PERMANENT dark age, no matter how much technological knowledge we might have acquired by then. That's when the survivors will get to see Keith Henson's beloved evolutionary psychology in action. You might want to study Jay Hanson's DIE OFF Website, especially the well-documented synopsis at: http://www.dieoff.org/synopsis.htm This essay, apparently written early in 2001, contains links to predictions made several years ago that North America's natural gas extraction would fall off the cliff presently; these predictions could almost have come from this week's news stories about Greenspan's testimony. It also points to the cognitive dissonance between the mainstream economic view of the world and the thermodynamic reality revealed by physics, since economists theorize as if perpetual motion machines exist. Mark Plus _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=21958