X-Message-Number: 21976 From: "Spoering" <> Subject: In Defense Of Mark Plus Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 11:57:28 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C3326C.20DFF1F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Greetings Everyone, Two or three of you out there have criticized Mark for being one of those people who is yelling "the sky is falling" when in fact it may be doing just that. A year or two ago I read the book "HUBBERT'S PEAK" by Kenneth Deffeyes. In this volume Deffeyes writes at lenght of the geophysicist M. Hubbert who predicted in 1956 that the United States will peak in oil production in the early seventies, the actual peak was 1970, quit an amazing prediction in my humble opinion. In this book Deffeyes performs analysis similar to Hubbert's and applies it to world oil production and come to the conclusion that conventional oil will peak 2004-2009. Several others have came to similar conclusions. I personally believe that C.J. Campbell has the best prediction, he gives the peak at 2010-2020, taking into account current unused production capacity and possible deep water drilling success. In addtion, oil discoveries are NOT keeping pace with the downdraw of current reserves, not by a long shot, from what I have read in several places. I have NO vested interest in this subject, I am just a concerned citizen looking into the long term consequences of all of this, both from a personal and worldwide standpoint, and to not realize we may be on the verge of a serious situation is just putting ones head in the sand and ignoring the facts. If all of the above is not bad enough consider reading the two following books, THE GREAT BUST AHEAD by Daniel Arnold, and THE RETIREMENT MYTH by Craig Karpel. Both of these volumes warn of possible hard economic times ahead due to the massive United States post World War 2 generation retiring soon and spending much less, sending the economy reeling. A person simply has to come to his/her own conclusions on their own, after arming themselves with the appropriate facts. I did read years ago that a 'think tank' somewhere came to the conclusion that the standard of living in the United States in the year 2050 will be only marginally better than the standard of living in China today, The reason: depletion of oil! What will this entail for cryonics. Probably not much, except that progress in all fronts may slow down and fewer people out there who could afford cryonics. Thank you Mark Plus for your interesting notes over the past several days. Best Regards......Kevin Spoering ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C3326C.20DFF1F0 Content-Type: text/html; [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=21976