X-Message-Number: 22052 From: "Omnedon" <> Subject: RE: Copal as food additive Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 09:14:33 -0400 Greetings Yvan, May I ask what was your personal experience with copal? What effect did it have? Best regards, www.BladesOfLegend.com Message #22041 From: Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 08:12:58 EDT Subject: Copal as food additive There is the well known theory of oxidative stress in the ageing problem. Vitamin C, E, ... are used as anti-oxidants, flavonoids found in red fruits are said to be even better. Then there is the French paradox: French citizens with unhealthy food consumption patern have a long life if they drink a lot of wine. That was traced down to a class of anti-oxidant products found in grappe seeds. The same product familly is found in the bark of conifer trees. It is sold under the trade name of "pycnogenol". That soluble bark extract is in fact the dryed return sap of the tree going back to the roots. Copal is this same bark bleed return sap, it is what is sold a enormous price under the pycnogenol trade name. So, if you are interested in anti-oxidant food additives why not use copal directly? Some years ago, I bought some pycnogenol in 30 mg capsules, 60 of them, less than 2 g of active product cost me many dollars. Copal is far cheaper. I found from personal experience that 30mg capsules had very limited effect, it may be as 100 mg ascorbic acid (vitamin C). To have some general health effect I need at least 1 g /day. At that level I would use a full pycnogenol bottle every other day, far too costly for me. So, copal was the solution. I think it could be included in health care products, such anti wrinkle lotions. I have not tested that but similar products are on the market, based on grape seed extracts. Who want to create such a business? The idea is free, I can send copal by the tons. Yvan Bozzonetti Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=22052