X-Message-Number: 22134 From: Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 16:32:28 EDT Subject: Logical hope besides Cryonics Hope Beyond Cryonics We base our hopes for immortality on cryonics and nanorepairs, betting there's almost nothing technology won't be able to do in fifty or a hundred years. Which is probably true. But taking this argument one step further, maybe we don't need Cryo. Vernor Vinge, and ray Kurzweil postulate brain-computer melds in around forty years leading to a vast increases in intelligence. So vast, that when we look at an Enhanced One we'll be like a dog watching his master discuss quantum mechanics on the Internet--not only will we not be able to follow the argument, but we won't know what he is doing and we won't even grasp his motivation. Vinge calls this the Singularity. And what will the hyper intelligent do? "Telepathy" perhaps, to let them fly as an eagle or swim as a whale. Time travel perhaps -- sooner or later they'll crack that nut, and experience battles as Alexander the Great--or his merest soldier. And record Alexander's mind somehow, and keep him around to talk to. And record the mind of everyone who ever lived, likewise. Including me and thee, and making cryo redundant. The same logic that says future technology will be able to revive the frozen soon -- well, sooner or later -- must hold that it will advance beyond that point, until in five hundred or surely in five thousand years, all this will be in our capability and will get done. So, frozen or not, you get saved. Anyone comforted? Cheers, Alan Mole Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=22134