X-Message-Number: 22137 From: "John de Rivaz" <> References: <> Subject: Re: Cryonic alternative to live birth Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 10:47:52 +0100 With regards to frozen embryos, I have it in mind that a few years ago the British government ordered the execution of those embryos stored this way that failed to have parents that kept the storage organisation aware of their location. There were many protests, not the least being one from the Roman Catholic Church, but the sentences were carried out. A similar execution occurred in the USA: http://www.Longevity-Report.com/1999.htm and scroll down the index to the story. Entering the text <frozen embryo> into the search box of http://news.bbc.co.uk reveals over 40 stories on the subject, but not this particular one which may have occurred outside the time frame of the BBC web site. There is another story there about a bitter fight by lawyers against a woman who wanted to use a frozen embryo from her deceased husband. This went to several appeals, but in the end the woman won. more on http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/252224.stm Another concern is that of estranged partners who fear that an ex-wife's lawyers can take their earnings to pay for the upbringing of children conceived by this method after the ending of partnerships. This particular problem could, of course easily be solved by legislation that absolves the previous partner of financial liability in IVF cases where the baby is conceived after the end of the partnership. But as most legislatures are composed of lawyers they are unlikely to pass laws that would simplify life in general. One of these cases is described on http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3046086.stm Often male partners try to use the power of the law to exterminate the unwanted embryos. I suspect, therefore, that if existing cryonics organisations were to enter into this field they would run a very severe risk of becoming bankrupted through exploratory legal adventurism long before any financial benefits could appear. -- Sincerely, John de Rivaz: http://John.deRivaz.com for websites including Cryonics Europe, Longevity Report, The Venturists, Porthtowan, Alec Harley Reeves - inventor, Arthur Bowker - potter, de Rivaz genealogy, Nomad .. and more Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=22137