X-Message-Number: 22175 Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 06:10:49 -0700 From: James Swayze <> Subject: More FDA interference/Truncated title Two days ago I posted a similar post to parts of this one immdeiately following asking if it was real news or a hoax. My title got truncated and the question removed. No one responded and so the question remains. The following may have further info to be found here: Health Supreme <http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/> - http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/ [begin quote] "South Africa 9 July 2003 - US President George W Bush has been greeted in Capetown by demonstrators enraged at US politics towards Africa and the World. Bush is on a tour of several African nations and has been received today by South African president Thabo Mbeki. According to a BBC report--> [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3056674.stm] <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3056674.stm> President Bush highlighted the fight against Aids. He praised efforts to tackle the disease in South Africa, which has the largest HIV-infected population in the world. "America is willing to put up the resources in the fight," he said. President Mbeki has taken a courageous stand--> [http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/06/26/aids_in_africa.htm] <http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/06/26/aids_in_africa.htm> on the AIDS issue, says Anthony Rees, director of Education and Research at the HONERI--> [http://www.honeri.org/] <http://www.honeri.org/> Institute in South Africa. At the international AIDS summit held in Durban in 2000, Mbeki had ignited a firestorm of criticism by asking dissident scientists including Peter Duesberg, who questioned whether HIV causes AIDS to advise him on the epidemic. Subsequently, South Africa took a firm stand against the pharmaceutical multinationals over royalties for the production of life saving drugs. Just days ago, Mbeki was informed by Rees of a complaint <http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/07/07/president_mbeki_informed_of_pharma_genocide_complaint.htm>--> [http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/07/07/president_mbeki_informed_of_pharma_genocide_complaint.htm] filed before the International Criminal Court in The Hague which accuses Bush and some of his closest collaborators of crimes of war. The directors of multinational pharmaceutical companies including Pfizer, Merck, GlaxoSmithKline, Novartis, Amgen and Astra Zeneca are also named in the complaint--> [http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/06/23/pharmaceutical_corporations_accused_of_genocide_before_icc_in_the_hague.htm] <http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/06/23/pharmaceutical_corporations_accused_of_genocide_before_icc_in_the_hague.htm> charging they deliberately prevented life-saving natural alternatives to drug based treatments from being applied in prevention and cure of mankind's great "killer diseases". According to the BBC report, Bush and Mbeki "emphasised their points of agreement", rather than their differences. Anthony Rees reports about the Capetown demonstration. (7/9/2003 7:16:22 PM)" [end quote] These immediately following are in regard to disturbing actions by the FDA, and others attempting to limit our abilities to cure through means considered unconventional by the likes of the FDA and 'Big Pharma'. Please note I took care to supply otherwise imbedded URL's from an html document. [begin quotes] "9 July 2003 - World arm wrestling champion Jason Vale will face FDA backed court action in New York on 14 July for sharing the seeds that allowed him to overcome terminal cancer. The case is about constitutional rights of free speech but also touches our right to choose treatment of our liking - without government interference. Jason, who cured himself of cancer by prayer and eating apricot seeds, containing Vitamin B17, and who has subsequently helped others in similar condition by supplying the seeds, is being challenged by the FDA to stop it or else. The FDA-initiated legal action which will culminate in a trial to be held this coming 14 July before Judge John Gleeson of the Federal Eastern District of New York. Call to action: Those in New York please organize a demonstration to express support. Others - spread the word. (7/9/2003 2:17:50 PM)" "3 July 2003 - London The Standing Committee on Health of the House of Commons, in a close vote, approved the proposed UK law that transforms the European Food Supplements directive into British law. 7 members of the 13-member committee accepted the government's proposed Statutory Instrument, which spells out the details of application of th new EU rules on supplements. The vote comes after the House of Lords--> [http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/07/01/uk_house_of_lords_votes_against_eu_supplements_directive.htm] <http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/07/01/uk_house_of_lords_votes_against_eu_supplements_directive.htm> had rejected the same law in an overwhelming, but non-binding motion. In an apparent attempt to head off intensive consumer lobbying and to ensure a politically correct outcome of the vote, the Standing Committee's members were shuffled on the morning of the vote with six new members being appointed just hours before the decision approving the government's proposal. There was no debate in the House of Commons. Update about the vote count in Committee (8 July 2003): Apparently the Government are now saying that the vote was actually AYES 8 NOES 6 (as opposed to AYES 7 NOES 6, which was what was read out at the end of the vote by the clerk). Apparently "the clerk read it out wrongly". A rarer than rare occurrence apparently..... Kind regards ---------- From: XXXXX Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 15:31:30 +0100 To: YYYYY Subject: RE: Standing Committee It was 8-6 - the clerk read it out wrong initially. The frustrating thing was that one of the Labour members was willing to vote the other way if it made the difference - but because if he did it would have been 7-7, the Government would have won on the Chairman's casting vote. Which means that if Dr Evan Harris, the Lib Dem health spokesman had bothered to turn up, the Government would have lost 8-7. Infuriating. From: YYYYY Sent: 04 July 2003 12:49 To: XXXXX Subject: RE: Standing Committee Can you confirm, the outcome of the vote. I believed it was a majority of 7 to 6 in favour of the directive. I believe you have said it was 8 to 6. Please clarify this when you have a moment. I will shortly be writing a press release on yesterday's meeting. (7/8/2003 7:27:29 PM)" "7 July 2003 - In the US, reports Consumer Advocate Tim Bolen, the "quackbusters" of the National Council for Health Fraud are busy attacking natural alternatives to pharmaceutical medicines. Bolen contends that Stephen Barrett <http://www.quackpotwatch.org/opinionpieces/quackpot_barrett_crushed_in_fede.htm>--> [http://www.quackpotwatch.org/opinionpieces/quackpot_barrett_crushed_in_fede.htm], and Robert Baratz--> [http://www.quackpotwatch.org/opinionpieces/how.htm] <http://www.quackpotwatch.org/opinionpieces/how.htm> are not alone and that their funding is likely to come from the deep coffers of pharmaceutical companies. The strategies employed by the unlikely duo include tricking the Federal Trade Commission <http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/06/cureall.htm>--> [http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/06/cureall.htm] and their "Operation Cure-All" into taking action based on complaints generated almost entirely by the quackbusters themselves. With various legal actions challenging these quackbusters already underway and a RICO (racketeering) complaint in the wings, this promises to become an interesting fight. Who is going to win, pharmaceutical interests or freedom of choice? (7/8/2003 3:39:55 PM)" "In France, reports Emma Holister <mailto:>--> [mailto:] of Candida International <http://www.CandidaInternational.org>--> [http://www.CandidaInternational.org], it is strictly prohibited for anyone but a medical doctor to heal someone, to prescribe a remedy, or to claim that any natural treatment has medicinal or therapeutic properties. This deplorable state of affairs is described in a book by Sylvie Simon in her book "Healing, al Illegal Practice". The pharmaceutical monopoly--> [http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/PHARMACEUTICAL_BUSINESS/history_of_the_pharmaceutical_industry.htm] <http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/PHARMACEUTICAL_BUSINESS/history_of_the_pharmaceutical_industry.htm> of the healing arts has made deep inroads into our cultural and social fabric, declaring the practice of healing to be criminal - except if execised by those beholden to the pharma view of medicine. The situation seems to be no better in the US, where "quackbusters" <http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/07/08/quackbusters_trick_federal_trade_commission.htm>--> [http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/07/08/quackbusters_trick_federal_trade_commission.htm] are sent after those who help people take care of their own health, without recourse to expensive and toxic pharmaceutically prescribed treatments, or in Canada, where nutritional help for the mentally ill is being suppressed because "it hasn't been researched", meaning it's not coming from pharma. It is time we examined this highly aberrated state of affairs and took back our right to self-determination and our freedom to choose! (7/8/2003 2:11:13 PM)" [end quote] Any comments? James -- Cryonics Institute of Michigan Member! The Immortalist Society Member! The Society for Venturism Member! MY WEBSITE: http://www.geocities.com/~davidpascal/swayze/ Signature Memetic Virus--The worst enemy of those who now or will need medical care is the politician and proselytizing religious fanatic who proscribes what doctors are allowed to prescribe and research, with the consent of their patients. Those who understand this are strongly encouraged to modify this to fit their personality, and add this to their signature file, and organize to recover our freedom from Big Brother. For those who wait until they are sick, it will be too late. Those who suffer from diseases which might have been cured by fetal tissue research or schedule 1 drugs banned by Big Brother, have the right to hold accountable those who sat on their hands or worse, deferred their responsibility for personal and humanity's survival to useless gods and pontificating religious quacks, while they remained ill and dying. Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=22175