X-Message-Number: 22203 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:17:14 -0700 From: "John Grigg" <> Subject: Religion & Cryonics Paul Pagnato wrote: Please do not make the BIG mistake of DEFENDING Cryonics as you will cause a major problem for all concerned. Simply put, just tell it simply "That when you are pronounced dead by our society God and the soul will workout the details". Nothing else should be said, written, etc. or you will be destroyed by the major religions, and the present Crusaders mentality. (end) While I think defending cryonics generally is a very good idea, attacking religion & its adherants to "make the world safe for cryonics" is going to only eventually blow up in our face. I agree with the notion of presenting cryonics to the general public as simply a medical procedure which has no guarantee of working, but is well worth the risk and cost involved. I had wondered how long it would take the Reverand Jerry Falwell and those like him to take notice of cryonics. I would imagine in time Christian bookstores will offer books about cryonics and transhumanism which will not be very flattering. What bothers me is the idea cryonics will automatically be lumped together with transhumanism which does not necessarily always come part and parcel with it. I do see in some ways a connection between the two, but one does not need to be a garden variety atheistic transhumanist to be signed up for cryonics. Considering Cryonet archives can be combed with an internet search engine, we should be careful what we write here. Or else at least make it out of bounds for the search engines. As David Pizer has said, cryonicists and the religious powers that be need to get along. So anyone who wants to live in the future Ventureville cryonics community had better not march down the street with a "Down with the God meme & Religion" banner to stir things up! A spirit of friendliness and mutual understanding is what the Venturists are looking for in their quest for a world where cryonics can succeed. thank you, John ____________________________________________________________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... Get Lycos Mail! http://login.mail.lycos.com/r/referral?aid=27005 Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=22203