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Subject: CRYONICS Joan Rivers Show
From:  (Charles Platt)
Date: Mon, 24 May 93 18:29:16 EDT


For those who like to know about media events featuring 
cryonics: 

On June 2 the Joan Rivers Show will be devoted to the topic 
of immortality. I was at the taping this afternoon, and I 
appeared in a brief segment dealing with cryonics. Bill 
Faloon (Saul Kent's partner in the FDA-fighting Life 
Extension Foundation) appeared in a separate segment dealing 
with vitamins and other drugs. Unfortunately, the entire 
first half of the hour-long program was taken up by the 
Eternal Flame Foundation, those amiable folks who think that 
by mental power alone, they have unlocked the "immortal 
cells" in their bodies and will live forever. 

Several people had warned me to expect a hostile interview, 
but in fact Joan Rivers took cryonics seriously and asked the 
usual questions in a reasonably sympathetic manner. Afterward 
I felt the show had gone well, though of course I haven't 
seen it yet. I regret I didn't answer the usual question 
about "What if the cryonics organization goes out of 
business?" with sufficient force, but otherwise I felt I made 
a reasonable case for cryonics. The producer had refused 
beforehand to allow mention of Alcor's 800 number on the air, 
but I managed to state the organization's name three times 
and its location in Riverside, California. 

Bill was excellent in his segment, referring repeatedly to 
the "criminal FDA" with obvious relish, and arguing 
vigorously for freedom to buy drugs of one's choice. 

As for the Eternal Flame people ... they committed the 
cardinal sin of being not only ridiculous, but dull. 
Basically their position is, "We're going to live forever 
because we believe we can." How do they know this? "We just 
know." Did they get some sort of mystical revelation? "No, we 
just know." But aren't they already showing significant signs 
of age? "Yes, but not as much as most people." And so on. 

Bill feels that viewers may be so disgusted by the first 
half-hour, they won't bother to watch the rest. I hope he's 
wrong. 

The Joan Rivers Show is a CBS program, but they don't network 
it, they syndicate it. This means that it may be on your 
local CBS station, or it may be on some other station, or it 
may not be aired in your area at all. Check your listings for 
June 2. 

Incidentally, watching Bill deal with the Eternal Flame 
people before we went on the show was a lesson in how in-
person PR should REALLY be done. I avoided talking to the 
Flamers, since I regard them as so irrational, there doesn't 
seem much room for conversation. But Bill immediately started 
talking to them about anti-aging drugs, charmed them, showed 
them some of his products, and by the end of it they invited 
him to speak at their annual conference (attended by about 
1500 people). True, the conference will be full of nuts, but 
they will be nuts who are very interested in staying alive 
forever, and I'll bet that Bill convinces some of them to 
start using his products. Unfortunately, I don't have the 
conviction to "sell" cryonics one-on-one with that kind of 
forcefulness. I prefer to lay out the facts, let the facts 
speak for themselves, and let people make up their own minds. 
I think this may work better in print than in person (which 
is why I'm a slightly reclusive writer, I guess). If there's 
someone out there who can present cryonics as charismatically 
as Bill presents anti-aging drugs, I would hand over the in-
person public relations work to him or her without any 
regrets whatsoever. 

Meanwhile, I have been pursuing the possibility of selling an 
article on cryonics to Wired magazine. (In case you haven't 
seen Wired, it's a mass-market consumer-tech magazine for 
people who are computer literate.) Unfortunately, the editor 
I dealt with regarded cryonics as boring (because it's all 
pie-in-the-sky) and technically suspect, so he wasn't 
interested. I had to settle for writing an article on 
nanotechnology which will mention cryonics in passing.

If anyone can point me toward very recent research into 
nanotech, I would appreciate hearing from them right away. I 
have to deliver the article by June 15. 

My next target for an article on cryonics is Mondo 2000.

--Charles Platt 

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