X-Message-Number: 22801 From: "David Pizer" <> Subject: Honesty is the best policy Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:48:11 -0800 ITS TIME FOR US TO BECOME HONEST AND TELL IT LIKE IT IS! I have become convinced that the reason the cryonics movement is moving so slowly is because we have recently been trying to sell cryonics without explaining the ultimate goal of physical immortality and it doesn't make sense to anyone when presented that way. "They" don't understand someone who wants to be frozen to come back and live 5 more years and then die. That sounds dumb to 'them' and it sounds dumb to us. If we want "them" to understand and *accept* what we are doing we have to explain the prospect of physical immortality to them. We have tried it the soft-petal way for the last few decades and our movement has been at a slow crawl, now lets try an honest approach. I hear people asking (all the time) "Why would you want to have your body frozen?" (OK substitute "vitrified" it still won't make sense to them without the concept of physical immortality). They ask this question because the person talking about cryonics and getting frozen did not tell them first that he/she wanted physical immortality - that he/she doesn't want to die. if you say you don't ever want to die, non-cryonicists can understand where you are coming from. Ettinger's book would have never sold a copy if his title had been "The Prospect of getting Frozen." People who try to sell cryonics without the concept of physical immortality are getting the cart before the horse and no one wants to ride. Ettinger gave them/us the prospect of immortality and then he told us how to get it with cryonics --- His book about *immortality,* by the way, started this movement. If you want the cryonics movement to succeed you have to be honest with potential supporters and non-supporters alike. You have to tell them your ultimate goal - physical immortality - first, and then tell them you are trying to obtain that goal through cryonics. They might not agree with you but at least they will *understand* why you are doing what you are doing. They are probably trying to obtain immortality through supernatural means so at least they will understand why your goal is desirable. They will respect you more then if you just say you want to get frozen and don't say why. Without the stated goal of scientific, medical, biological physical immortality, the goal of cryonics sounds as stupid as the mummifiers. David Pizer Content-Type: text/html; [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=22801