X-Message-Number: 22804
From: "Reason" <>
Subject: RE: CryoNet #22792 - #22803
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 02:44:11 -0800

> Message #22801
> From: "David Pizer" <>
> Subject: Honesty is the best policy
> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:48:11 -0800
>
> ITS TIME FOR US TO BECOME HONEST AND TELL  IT LIKE IT IS!
>
> I have become convinced that the reason the cryonics movement is
> moving so slowly is because we have recently been trying to sell
> cryonics without explaining the ultimate goal of physical
> immortality and it doesn't make sense to anyone when presented
> that way.  "They" don't understand someone who wants to be frozen
> to come back and live 5 more years and then die.  That sounds
> dumb to 'them' and it sounds dumb to us.
>
> If we want "them" to understand and *accept* what we are doing we
> have to explain the prospect of physical immortality to them.  We
> have tried it the soft-petal way for the last few decades and our
> movement has been at a slow crawl, now lets try an honest approach.

There's a non-profit current working on this problem: the Immortality
Institute (http://www.imminst.org). The site is home to an active, friendly,
fairly transhumanist online community who are currently working on a small
book, amongst other items (http://www.imminst.org/forum).

Personally, I feel physical immortality as a fluffy concept is an easier
sell than, say, AI or cryonics. (Fluffy because you have to sell that first
feel good fuzzy idea before you can get them to the science). It's a harder
sell than incremental healthy life extension (as I'm trying to push at
http://www.longevitymeme.org).

Reason
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