X-Message-Number: 22808 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:29:34 -0800 (PST) From: Randall Burns <> Subject: Re: CryoNet #22792 - #22803 I tend to see your point about avoiding the media. The man that I know that got more media attention than anyone else once said: "When I do something that gets my name in the papers, I start to do something else" What I would really like to see here: Cryonics storage facilities in a variety of locations and a market in which folks can insure against problems with their suspension. Now, I understand that isn't an immediate practical option. What we have though is a serious, long term planning issue. wrote >Just an idea for the "real" future, since China is the future and we all must face this.. Yes, my wife and I would not mind being suspended in China, or wherever. We just want to be suspended where we are secure and "know" that Cryonics is going to be able to continue to work to bring us safely back into a welcoming environment, not one that will look at us with the present evil contempt in our society.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There _is_ an idea that China would be the next major technological power. I personally tend to think Russia is a more likely option BTW simply because any Russian government _has_ to be able to face up to a Chinese government militarily if it wants any hope at political autonomy-which means they can't afford to treat their technologists as disposable commodities(also keep in mind the technology for the latest space launch from China was purchased from Russia). Right now, Russia is in bad shape, but I think they are closer to discussing fundamental problems than the English Speaking countries are. The right wing is in a strange situation with the rise of fundamentalist Christianity. Strangely, the Islamic world seems considerably more friendly to stuff like stem cell research and therapeutic cloning than the west. We in Cryonics are caught beween a rock and a hard place. The fundies hate cryonics because of its attack on Judeo-Christian norms and the role step-cell research/cloning might play in real rejuvenation. Elements of the extreme environmentalists see Cryonics as tied up with "pro-growth" anti-environmentalist attitudes. Now, of these groups I suspect we are more likely to be able to reason with the Greens than the fundies-but both are going to be hard nuts to crack. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=22808