X-Message-Number: 22809 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:57:24 +0100 Subject: Re: Honesty is the best policy From: David Stodolsky <> On Sunday, November 9, 2003, at 08:48 AM, David Pizer wrote: > If we want "them" to understand and *accept* what we are doing we have > to explain the prospect of physical immortality to them. We have > tried it the soft-petal way for the last few decades and our movement > has been at a slow crawl, now lets try an honest approach. According to my last post on this subject, the cryonics movement is increasing exponentially. I have solicited data (members/suspensions) from the provider organizations in order to generate a more accurately estimate the growth parameters, but no response was received. It is far from a given that the movement has been at a "slow crawl," except in absolute terms. Therefore, any conclusion about the correct strategy for promoting cryonics has no factual basis in growth figures. With respect to the overall question of marketing cryonics, there are some research questions that I have been planning to explore based upon some very interesting work, but have been unable to due to lack of support: Mandel, N. & S. Heine (1999), "Terror Management and Marketing: He Who Dies With the Most Toys Wins," Advances in Consumer Research, 26, 527-532. Abstract: In recent years, reports of death in American news programs have increased considerably. It is impossible to watch the local news without being bombarded with reports of the latest gory murders, fatal car crashes and deadly fires. How does this death-related content affect consumers' perceptions of products advertised within these programs? This paper demonstrates that high-status items are evaluated more favorably by individuals who are subtly reminded of their own impending mortality than by control subjects. In contrast, low-status items are rated slightly less favorable by mortality salient subjects than by their control counterparts. On Saturday, November 8, 2003, at 03:07 AM, David Pizer wrote: > > The real challenge to cryonics and the prospect of physical > immortality is in the arena of public opinion. If we can do a good > job there, walls will come down and bridges will go up. For at least the last twenty years, I have been saying that social and political factors are the key to the success of cryonics. It now appears that this idea has finally been accepted, due to recent unfortunate events. However, without this realization being supported by some scientific work, it is unlikely to have much effect. My original idea was to use Cryonics.info as both a marketing vehicle and a way to collect data on the effectiveness of marketing messages, however, without support this plan remains on the back burner. dss > David S. Stodolsky SpamTo: Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=22809