X-Message-Number: 22858 From: "Paul Pagnato" <> References: <> Subject: Re: CryoNet #22856 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 10:15:10 -0800 Re: 22856 & James Swayze Thank you for your sincere logic about China. All individiuals that are involved in large corporate structures, large economic situations for the future, large investment firms, all acknowledge, all know, all are aware that they must and are presently seeking investments and partnerships with Asia, especially China. Fact: The U.S. cannot continue to be a world leader, be the #1 power without China as a mutual friend and all the politicians and corporations know this. So, who is more powerful, the Judeo/Christian right wing or the conglomerates $$$$ $$????? Answer: conglomerates. Cryonics should immediately become active in China, not little countries, not little economies, not Russia, etc. RE: The U.S. & China in the very near future will be one (1) interwoven military and capitilist country, nothing has ever been like this in the past. "Give me liberty or Death", the present policy/attitude would be to continue to give you death. Just read what James Swayze said about China and stem cell.....Very, very soon thousands of people will be going to China for stem cells, and it's only the very beginning. Wake up to this reality, just like we all woke up years ago about Cryonics, but we continue to face a very niave' and dangerous society. China will never forget the circumstances that let to the Christian Boxer Rebellion, and this will assist all of us. You might think all the latter very radical, but others think Cryonics is a little radical, but we know better. Yes, it's a gigantic step mentally and physically, but a more secure one for the living future. Here, right here, there will be terrorism, revolution, massive violence, plus the religious fanatics. China is a very self disciplined society, both genetically, and politically. They never asked the world for there poor, uneducated, criminal elements to work in there factories, hotels, etc. Genetically it is just plan safer for all of us. Yes, I do love America, but I love Cryonics, my wife and my future longer life more. Respectfully, Paul Message #22856 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 00:14:32 -0800 From: James Swayze <> Subject: U.S. Mom Finds [stem] Cells to Help Ailing Child [in China] U.S. Mom Finds Cells to Help Ailing [Chinese] Child Sun Nov 16, 9:20 AM By STEPHANIE HOO, Associated Press Writer http://www.comcast.net/News/HEALTHWELLNESS//XML/1104_AP_Online_Regional___Asia/e6c9435f-aebe-4090-934f-3732d792621f.html BEIJING - Twice in one year, an American woman journeyed across the ocean on the most urgent of missions: seeking rare cells for the bone-marrow transplant that could save her adopted Chinese daughter's life. As each day passed, success seemed less likely....... .......Wells had come to China looking for Kailee's biological family, who would be most likely to provide suitable cells. The cells at Tianjin's Union Stem Cell and Gene Engineering Ltd. from a local 1-year-old girl might well fit the bill, though the girl isn't related to Kailee. [end] China has no problems with doing stem cell and other related research. This was cord cells but that's only the tip of the iceberg. Our presidential administration is endangering US and western nations technological superiority as are the voices of dissent against stem cell and SCNT and like research. It's really too bad we don't live under a cold war anymore because these voices may well be seen as treasonous. They will be looked back upon as so. The US current administration is endangering our lives and well being in ways they seem unable to even conceive. James -- Member: Cryonics Institute of Michigan http://www.cryonics.org The Immortalist Society http://www.cryonics.org/info.html The Society for Venturism http://www.venturist.org Immortality Institute http://www.imminst.org MY WEBSITE: http://www.davidpascal.com/swayze/ Signature Memetic Virus--The worst enemy of those who now or will need medical care is the uninformed politician or moral fanatic who proscribe what doctors are allowed to prescribe and research, with the consent of their patients. Those who understand this are strongly encouraged to modify this to fit their personality, and add this to their signature file, and organize to recover our freedom from Big Brother. For those who wait until they are sick, it will be too late. Those who suffer from diseases which might have been cured by advanced medical research or schedule 1 drugs banned by Big Brother, have the right to hold accountable those who sat on their hands or worse, deferred their responsibility for personal and humanity's survival to unseen mystical agents, while they remained ill and dying. End of CryoNet Digest ********************* Content-Type: text/html; [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=22858