X-Message-Number: 22977 From: Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:27:25 EST Subject: Re: President Bush From Steve Bridge Re: Message #22959 From: "Paul Pagnato" <> Subject: Re: CryoNet 22956 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:25:17 -0800 Paul stated: >RE: #22956 President Bush &Jerry Searcy: > >I didn't start it....politics..... but "President Bush" is an idiot and the biggest danger to our once free society, including >Cryonics. Next you will brag about Laura Bush who went up on a DWI charge after killing/murdering a person in Texas >and of course she never spent one day in jail. Do you also support that the Bush Sr's going back to "during/while our >troops were being killed" in WWII owned the coal mines in Poland that were rented by the Nazi's for Aushwitz Camps to >kill Jews, Gays, and Gypsies and the killing of our U.S. troops in the battlefields ? I am certainly no supporter of George Bush and his policies, but mixing in sloppy research and irrelevancies does not help ones case. A person who reports as sloppily as Paul does loses his credibility in general. Laura Bush (President Bush's wife) did run a stop sign when she was *17* years old (when she was Laura Welch) and tragically crash into the car driven by her own boyfriend, killing him. There is no apparent truth to the rumor that she was DWI (driving while intoxicated). The police reports from the time state that neither driver had been drinking. No charges were filed against Miss Welch, but that has nothing to do with the fact that many years later she would marry George Bush, Jr. The police in Texas have no special powers to foretell the future. Whether or not the police made a mistake in filing no charges against her, this incident is completely *irrelevant* to any criticism of George W. Bush today, and only makes the people who bring it up look like rumor mongers who will babble about anything to get their way. The coal mines in Poland were owned by a company, of which two of the managers were Prescott Bush and George Herbert Walker, the current President's *grandfathers,* not father. There seems to be a possibility that the Bush family gained financially from dealing with the Nazi's. I am not sure that even this, if really true, is very relevant to the behavior of the current President Bush. It is certainly LESS relevant than the mistakes he is actually making himself. It is a very weak argument to criticize someone because of actions taken by his grandparents. In general, if you have several good arguments and several weak arguments to support your position, the weak arguments drag down and devalue the good arguments. Half truths, whether about cryonics or presidents, always make for unintelligent discourse. Steve Bridge Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=22977