X-Message-Number: 23053 From: "Mark Plus" <> Subject: Leon Kass and the fiction fallacy Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 20:12:30 -0800 Brian Alexander in his book, _Rapture: How Biotech Became the New Religion_ <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0738207616/> credits Robert A. Heinlein's short novel _Methuselah's Children_ (MC) with inspiring many in the movement to conquer aging and death through scientific means. (Apparently Gregory Benford refers to the novel's fans as "the Brotherhood.") For those who haven't read MC, it relates the highly risky adventures of a group of families artificially bred for longevity which steals a starship and makes two unsettling first contacts with alien races. When the long-lived characters return to Earth, they discover that their short-lived brethren, knowing that radical longevity was possible, developed techniques to attain it themselves, giving the novel's hero a totally new perspective on his long-term future. Meanwhile, Leon Kass, Immortalism's current arch-enemy, seems idiosyncratically focussed on fictional portrayals of characters who bring disaster upon themselves from meddling with the natural order and reaching for things allegedly beyond human propriety. (Curiously, Kass doesn't seem to be bothered by the Borgs on his side, like the defibrillated Vice President or the cochlear-implanted Rush Limbaugh.) Apparently Kass is too Matrix-bound to consider other perspectives, and he would have everyone take the Blue Pill, indefinitely. Refer, for example, to the Slate article, "Anti-Science-Fiction": http://slate.msn.com/id/2060902/ Considering that you can find fictional examples to support any worldview you choose, maybe both sides should set aside the make-believe and concentrate instead on what real people with morally defensible motivations want from biotechnology. After all, with the stroke of a pen you can make a fictional character in a story do anything you want, whereas human behavior in the real world doesn't fall into such neat patterns. Either that, or else Immortalists could co-opt the ultimate neo-Luddite bogeyman, Victor Frankenstein. If American culture has been able to give vampires a public-relations makeover so that novels, movies and television shows regularly portray them sympathetically, with blonde American girls even choosing them as lovers, then I don't see why Frankenstein couldn't get the same treatment. Maybe cryonicists could at least acknowledge an oblique relationship with vampires, since the cryonaut, like the person becoming a vampire, has his blood removed in a process that (we hope!) leads to a dispensation from mortality. Mark Plus _________________________________________________________________ Don t worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the holidays. Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=23053