X-Message-Number: 23344
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 00:51:49 +0800 (CST)
From: =?big5?q?kurt2100kimo?= <>
Subject: My views compared to others


I honestly do not know if my views are typical of
other cryonics people. I was in the meliu in the late
80's. Then I went to grad school, then ended up in
Asia for the next 10 years of my life.

I have had very little contact with other cryonics
people, except for a small group in Japan (mostly
gaijin) whose views and life-styles are similar to

I am into life because I am into adventure. Living 10
years in Asia, with little contact with people back in
the U.S. has changed me somewhat. I am currently
living in the state, but am planning to return to

I am married (happily so) but have no desire for kids.
My marriage is like "going steady for life". My wife
(who is Japanese) is also interested in a return to

I do believe that immortality (or agelessness, as a
better word) will lead to a more "bohemian" society.
When I say this to expats (gaijin in Japan and Asia),
they seem to like and agree with this. For some
reason, the suggestion of an ageless, bohemian society
seems to really push a button in people here in the
states. I don't know why this is. People here seem to
be like little facists. I really don't like it.

I also notice that people here seem much more uptight,
compared to the late 80's. However, there are positive
changes as well. Gays and other alternative
sexualities seem to more socially accepted today than
20 years ago. I'm a fairly conservative guy myself,
but feel more comfortable in liberal social melieus
than conservative ones.

I have also noticed that the expats are much more open
to cryonics and immortality, when I talk to them about
it; compared to people back here. This is why I think
that the largest potential market for cryonics is the
expat/adventurer population.

In the two and a half years I have been back in the
states, I find that I have very little in common with
most people back here. That, combined with a lack of
business/employment opportunities, makes a return to
Asia much more attractive.

The biggest problem with the marketability of cryonics
is that we really do not have a "product" yet. That
is, we cannot cryo-preserve people and bring them out
again, reversibly. Of course, this is not going to be
possible for a long time and there is no point to
bringing people out until we have cured aging.
However, if we could develop verifiable
neuro-preservation, and show that the constituents of
memory and identity are still there; that would
constitute a real "product" in the minds of the target
market (the expat/adventurers who are not techno-geeks
like us) such that they may consider signing up.

Saul Kent has said these same things some years back,
and he is entirely right.

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