X-Message-Number: 23424 From: Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 09:14:10 EST Subject: Interesting idea from Dr. Hughes re: ice crystals, laws re: cryonics In a message dated 2/12/2004 5:01:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, writes: Message #23419 From: Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 07:36:04 EST Subject: Crystal reduction An idea occurred to me that may have merit in reduction of crystal formation. Movement (stirring) a supersaturated solution significantly reduces crystal size. Could sound waves by used to prevent ice crystallization? Too much power in the waves would cause heating (microwaves). A lower frequency could be initiated as the core tempurature approaches freezing, and its intensity increased until freezing is completed. It would be easy to test. James R Hughes, MD (End of quote, Rudi Hoffman now writing.) What an interesting idea, James! Like many possibilities in cryonics and science, it requires research, time, money, someone to believe in and "champion" the cause, making iterations and refinements and repeated experiments to make it work. Unfortunately, this level of experimentation, research, and funding are exactly what we DON'T have going, excepting 21st Century Medicine and perhaps Yuri Pichugan. Like many problems in life, there are probably many ways a technological "fix" can be obtained, if we have more dedicated and smart people working on the problem. An increased economy of scale will be obtained as we get more sign-ups, but the reality is that they are still a trickle, in the larger scheme of things. But the cryonics community is very gradually bootstrapping itself toward legitimacy, mainstream acceptance, and reversible cryopreservation. (At a minimum this statement is a "useful myth," much better than handwringing about what sometimes seems like zero progress.) As we all know, the issues on the plate as of late have not been technological but regulatory. Tanya Jones and Joe Waynick (did I spell the new ALCOR CEO's name right?) are evidently working with the State of Arizona Legislature to proactively craft cryonics friendly legislation. And prevent cryonics disastrous legislation. Having dealt with the State of Florida and regulators, I can personally attest that dealing with bureaucratic Nazis is 100 times WORSE than most people can imagine. The blunt steamroller of state power does not have the fine pointed multiple response options we come to expect from the free market. In short, we all know that bad cryonics regulation or laws could kill our dream of killing death. Having had and still being in the process of a bureaucratic nightmare with State Security regulators, I can better imagine the frustration felt by people under the jack booted heels of state power. By the way, this would include all of us, despite our libertarian rantings and banter. What can we do to help? We all have different ways. My particular way is to continue to work to add to the cryonics signups, and donate some money to ALCOR, along with technology and progress friendly causes. About 80% of the people who signed up for cryonic suspension last year in the WORLD funded their suspension through life insurance with Hoffman Suspension Funding, and I am very grateful for this. Thank you all from the bottom of my heart. :) Some of you may have influence with lawmakers, or be able to help craft the legislative and regulatory verbiage that allows ALCOR, CI, and SAI to continue their research and work. I know this may have already been done in part. But we can be sure this kind of work will NEVER be done. We know that regulation must and will come. I have been told privately by persons in a position to know that if cryonics facilities were forced to adhere to all regulations of the medical profession it could bankrupt every cryonics organization now existing. I don't know if this is true, but it certainly might be. Especially right now, I hate regulators with a passion most of you would not believe. But, would you agree if there is a vacuum of NO regulation, that some idiot or idiots will surely impose some? And we probably won't like them a bit. So we must have cryonics activists helping to craft the precise verbiage that will allow growth, fiscal responsibility, and research. My appreciation and respect goes to Tanya Jones, Joe Waynick, and others in all organizations who are proactively developing the regulatory infrastructure that will enable the vital activity of saving individual lives to continue. For Centuries, Rudi Hoffman CFP CLU Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=23424