X-Message-Number: 23661 From: "iamremotelymorty" <> References: <> Subject: Re: [CN] Easy vs. Important (was 'Miracle' boys defy death under the ice) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 07:01:24 +1000 Hi Ho All, I always get behind when reading the mail, but I'm getting there. A couple of weeks ago Tim Freeman asked ... > Does anyone have examples of other important reasons not to do > cryonics, and how to respond to them? I have a few, but no response to them. 1] The "Freak Show" factor 2] I wouldn't want countless thousands of reanimated people wandering about the place, dislocated from society, or worse, segregating themselves, so it would be selfish on my part to be one of them. 3] "Immortal" people are/would be arrogant, and that would put a huge rift between society. 4] Those cryonists who follow the "World is my playground so I don't want to settle down, live a life and die, I want to play forever" line of thinking are inherently offering as little as they can to this society, and so will no doubt offer as little as they can to any future society; thus creating a resentment. 5] Why would you want to live for ever? 6] Evolutionaryily speaking, the human race will evolve in the time frame of a cryonist's near future reanimation, and so you could very well return to a non-human Earth. Worse still, if the reanimation (or your 2nd or 3rd etc) is tens of thousands of years away, your reanimation could result in spending your days as a "lab rat". Just imagine (as the movies have constantly) what it would be like if we found and reanimated a Neandethal, let alone an Erectus. These 'humans' wouldn't be aloud to walk free, they would imprisoned in the name of science and experimented and tested until, well, it was time to really want to deanimate. And all your rights that you may have bought, contracted or put in law, well they would have gone with the current species of Homo Sapiens, so just as we would ignore any laws and customs of Mr Neandethal so to would this future species ignore yours. At the very least, if you were 'set free' with equal rights etc, then you would forever be a lesser species of human. Look how the world's indigenous people are treated by the 'civilised' world today and DNA testing shows we are all one and the same. Imagine that treatment in the future when the DNA shows a difference. Just some thoughts, all based on the reanimation at the other end. I'm assuming technology in the future will work, and work so well that it will be a nice instant sleep and you are 100% fixed etc. The science behind it has never been a concern, and to me needs no argument about whether it works or not. It will work, eventually. Rock On Christopher i am remotely morty http://www.users.bigpond.com/iamremotelymorty/ Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=23661