X-Message-Number: 23829 From: "michaelprice" <> References: <> Subject: Axioms are not truths Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 10:42:10 +0100 David Pizer > Michael C. Price said: >> >> David Pizer's sig said: >>> Something cannot come from nothing. >> Who says? >> This is not something logic can answer, only experiment. > > My reply: Only logic can answer this. > And it is a bottom logical truth "bottom logical truth"? Are we talking axioms? Logical truths can be demonstrated by series of steps from choosen set of axioms. Please demonstrate your "truth". > - no explanation is needed nor is possible, In which case it is not a logical truth. Perhaps you have adopted it as an axiom of faith. That's your choice. That does not make it true. > you either see it as logically true or you don't. Sounds like an axiom, not a "logical truth". Axioms are not truths. Different choices of axiom bases are possible. > Logic also tells us that you can't experiment on nothing. Demonstrate that claim, logically or empirically, if you expect others to take it seriously. > David Cheers, Michael C Price http://mcp.longevity-report.com http://www.hedweb.com/manworld.htm Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=23829