X-Message-Number: 23834 From: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 19:46:35 EDT Subject: nothing Dave Pizer has written that, logically, nothing can come from nothing, and Michael Price responded that this is a question for experiment. Reminds me of an old joke: Fellow says, "I'm afraid of nothing!" Second fellow: "I'll bet you're afraid of death." First: "Sure--death is nothing." Most "philosophical" puzzles--maybe all of them--are just confusions of language. This is certainly true of the most famous "paradoxes" such as the Liar and Russell's. Current physics indicates that the "vacuum"--one form of "nothing"--has a structure, an ontology, and even whole "universes" can spring from nothing, let alone violations of conservation of energy. And space itself, or spacetime, is said to be a physical "thing" with its own structure and transformations. Much ado about nothing? And "instrumentalism" isn't good enough. The ptolemaic system was good enough for an instrumentalist! We do need to make a distinction between work and play, even if we enjoy our work or get paid for playing. Robert Ettinger Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=23834