X-Message-Number: 23874 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 07:43:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Badger <> Subject: Re: Pagnato's why do they hate us > Kennita wrote: > <<Personally, I imagine that in the future, persons > whose behavior is not only antisocial but harmful will > be assigned to virtual realities where they can hang > out until they learn to "work and play well with > others".>> I replied: > Hmmm. I think religious people think that's why we're all here on Earth. Kennita replied: So religious people think we're in virtual reality now? And what do they think the people who get killed in shootouts with the cops learned? My response: Huh??? Uh, first, I'm a non-believer but since God allegedly created the universe from outside of our universe, wouldn't that outside realm be the true reality and the universe we live in be artificial in some sense? I don't know. But regardless, I think even the casual reader would not have assumed from my post that I actually think religious people believe we're in a virtual reality (even though I think the virtual reality hypothesis is a considerably better hypothesis than the god hypothesis). The more obvious reference was that most religious people (IMO, of course) essentially seem to think we're here to learn how to play well with each other. As for the psychiatric applications of virtual realities, it's already being done. Virtual reality headsets are being used to systematically desensitize people with an excessive fear of heights, for example, by progressively walking closer and closer to the edge of a virtual cliff. Other anxiety disorders are also probably being treated with this technology. I personally suspect that we'll have better treatments in the future for those with serious mental illnesses than placing them in individualized therapeutic virtual environments until they "get well". If the mind truly is what the brain does, then it seems to me that any mental illness should be successfully treated by fixing the malfunctioning parts of the brain, even if it takes sophisticated nanotech scanning and repairing brain anomalies to do it. Talk therapy would eventually be obsolete. Nevertheless, there no doubt will be more and better therapeutic applications of virtual reality technologies in the future. Best regards, Scott Badger __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=23874