X-Message-Number: 23884 From: "Mark Plus" <> Subject: Francis Crick on consciousness and personhood Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:48:47 -0700 http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/13/science/13CRIC.html?pagewanted=print&position= or, http://tinyurl.com/ypw5a April 13, 2004 SCIENTIST AT WORK | FRANCIS CRICK After the Double Helix: Unraveling the Mysteries of the State of Being By MARGARET WERTHEIM .... Dr. Crick says he is convinced that the origin of consciousness is a solvable problem, albeit complex. He drew an analogy with another phenomenon once attributed to transcendent powers: "People think the brain is mysterious but not the weather. Why is that?" In some ways, he suggested, the brain may be less enigmatic than the weather, because "we don't yet have a clear understanding of how raindrops form but we do know how individual neurons and synapses work." The elucidation of the double helix ushered in the age of molecular genetics, which has now given rise to the vast applications of genetic engineering. Elucidating consciousness could have similarly portentous results, Dr. Koch suggests. One potential application, he says, is some kind of instrument for measuring its intensity, perhaps a "consciousometer." Anesthesiologists might use it to determine when a patient under sedation is truly out. But in his book, Dr. Koch also raises the possibility of more troubling uses, including measuring the awareness levels of severely retarded children and elderly patients with dementia. Or, he asks, "How do we know that a newborn baby is conscious?" Perhaps consciousness is something that doesn't begin at birth, he said, but gradually emerges. "This research is going to pose enormous legal and ethical questions," Dr. Koch acknowledged in the recent interview. "I'm not convinced that people want to know how consciousness works," he said. "They feel cast out of the world of meaning." Having solved one of the basic mysteries of life here on Earth, Dr. Crick seems happy to skewer any notions of a life beyond. For him, the most profound implication of an operational understanding of consciousness is that "it will lead to the death of the soul." "The view of ourselves as `persons' is just as erroneous as the view that the Sun goes around the Earth," he said. He predicted that "this sort of language will disappear in a few hundred years." "In the fullness of time," he continued, "educated people will believe there is no soul independent of the body, and hence no life after death." _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=23884