X-Message-Number: 23948 From: Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 18:26:43 EDT Subject: Celebrity Signup Project, Your help and input requested Hello, This is Rudi. I posted this a day or so ago, but it did not print. A bunch of you were kind enough to email me personally with requests for reposting, and protocols to copy and paste, don't just forward text. Letter follows: In a message dated 4/19/2004 4:03:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, writes: > 3. Yes, the list SHOULD be expanded. It just takes time, effort, and > focus. And ideally a team or group with the ALCOR sanction to extend > the offer. Will keep you in the loop re: this. This could be a good place for ImmInst to step in and help. I can bring together a handful of reliable people via ImmInst into a private forum and you may find it helpful to delegate. This is how we've been successful with the Book Project and the Cryonics Letter. BJK Dear Bruce Klein, Joe Waynick, and Whom it May Concern: Heck yes, I accept! Competent help is always a joy. Here are the issues, as I see them now: 1. A few years back, I had a disk bought off Ebay that had current and accurate celebrity names and addresses. I no longer have this, and it would be dated if I did have it. 2. Someone needs to comb google or search engines to replicate or find such a resource. The disk (which was a 3.5 floppy...give you an idea of how old it was) was surprisingly cheap. Ten bucks, I think. I will buy it if it is pretty cheap, just to help the process. 3. We need to brainstorm and develop consensus as to who we are targeting. Someone on this committee needs to be ALCOR authorized to say, "Yea, this person has a high enough profile that we are willing to either absorb cost of suspending him out of THEN current funds (hopefully far future actual cost outlay), or pay for a policy on his life to offset cost of suspension when it occurs." 4. Joe Waynick, the current CEO of ALCOR, is a great guy, from all reports. But he is also reportedly and based on writings I have seen from him a "fiscal conservative" related to ALCOR. Very prudent, of course, and I applaud this. He would have to see that this is a program that would more than pay for itself through additional signups. 5. This idea, the "Celebrity signup" is a decidedly not new idea. But this distinction now is that we have some sharp people who may be willing to step up to the plate and help promote it. I would be willing to be the point person and help lead the charge on this idea, but my time is ridiculously stretched due to some issues not relevant here. 6. Dilettantes and idea pushers have always been a dime a dozen regarding cryonics marketing. What is perhaps new is we don't have someone saying "Hey, you cryonics guys are pretty stupid about marketing. What YOU ought to do is ...." followed by the arrogant and misguided notion that no one ever thought of their brilliant idea in thirty years of very smart people being associated with cryonics. There are periodic outbreaks of this "marketing dilettantism" on Cryonet. 7. Here is a start of our Dream List: (We will leave off my FAVORITE because it is too late, dammit, to freeze CARL SAGAN.) Ann Druyan Sagan (Carl's Wife.) William Shatner ("Captain Kirk") Leonard Nimoy (Spock) Adrian Paul (Plays "The Immortal") Arthur C. Clarke Dr. Francis Crick, Co-discover of DNA, world's foremost consciousness researcher, unabashed in his materialistic views, currently age 87 with cancer. William Gates Paul Allan (Current Microsoft CEO) George Soros (anti NRA guy whose politics I don't like, but still a hitter.) Warren Buffet (Who said "Why not" to cryonics question at last shareholder meeting. We have some cryonicists who know him.) Arnold Schartzeneger (Slogan, "I'LL BE BAAACK!") Kurt Russell (Self described Libertarian, individualist.) Penn and Teller (Skeptics, "Bullshit" debunkers, have a great series on HBO, well known magicians and religion and fraud debunkers.) James,"The Amazing" Randi, Perhaps the world's best known debunker of charlatans and cheats, world class magician and escape artist. Who I personally talked with about Cryonics at his 70th birthday party. Fairly interested, but he did not follow through. Wasn't negative about it. Michael Shermer, who I ALSO talked to personally about cryonics, and was reasonably open minded. Knows some cryonicists. Knows it is normally funded with life insurance. And then writes a negative and mean spirited article referencing cryonics in Scientific American. (Including misrepresenting the costs, which he KNEW better about, because we'd talked about how cheap a policy would be for him.) I will stop here for now. But I think this is good start. I have just spoken with Jennifer Chapman regarding "Celebrity Cryonics Signup Project." She is supportive, but agrees we need to have the imprinteur of the CEO Joe Waynick. Even if he approves it conceptually and then delegates actual detail follow through to ALCOR staff or volunteer person. Dr. Jerry Lemler would be great, and my preference, as a great person to work with on this. Yours for Preservation of Individual Lives, And Effective Public Relations Coup worth millions in cost effective positive publicity, Rudi Hoffman CFP CLU Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" [ AUTOMATICALLY SKIPPING HTML ENCODING! ] Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=23948