X-Message-Number: 24148
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 00:50:39 -0700
From: James Swayze <>
Subject: Re: Oregon residence for assisted suicide
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>Message #24131
>From: 
>Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 14:50:28 EDT
>Subject: Oregon -- PS contact data
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>Rudi had asked about contact information. I did talk to the head of End of 
>Life Choices, but he was almost hysterical in his opposition to cryo, so it 

>would be fruitless or counterproductive to call him again.  Below is the web 
page 
>where the Oregon Dept of Health & Human Services reports on results for 2003. 

>Elsewhere on their site they describe the legal requirements. Residency is one
>but I think there is really no definition of that -- probably if you are 
>there and assert it is your residence, it is.
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>http://www.ohd.hr.state.or.us/chs/pas/arresult.cfm
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>If anyone knows any doctors up there, please let me know.
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>BTW, I mentioned a tub of brine in the letter.  I was thinking salt-icewater, 
>a few degrees below normal freezing, but apparently "brine" can get much 

>colder and damage tissue.  Plain icewater is said to be adequate, so that 
wording 
>would be changed.
>
>Alan
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Alan,

I would tend to doubt your residence in OR theory. I could be wrong but 
I'll still explain my reasoning. Oregon has state income tax and we 
across the river to the north in Washington do not. However, the 
enlightened Oregonians do not charge sales tax for anything, whereas 
again the opposite is true in Washington. Another issue is tax on 
licensing vehicles, way high in WA but low to nil in OR. I bet it's easy 
now for all of us to figure out that for various reasons less than 
honest people living close to the border pull shenanigans on both sides 
of the river for various ways to cheat on taxes. For this reason and 
especially college tuition issues if memory serves me correctly, I went 
to PSU, there's a six month residency criteria. This may have changed 
and I didn't bother looking it up before posting.

But I thought that reasonable people like us can see problems when 
testing a still very shaky and controversial law. If someone wanted to 
in any way throw a wrench in the works an easy one would be not 
complying with criterion for residency. I'm sure the last thing 
Oregonians want is to have a 'loco crazy bunch of individuals', as they 
will see it, showing up just to utilize their enlightened law and abuse 
their good graces in having sense enough as a progressive society to 
care for excess suffering for the terminally ill. They won't see it the 
way we do, that we're actually not only relieving excess suffering but 
also and wonderfully so offering an actual chance at continued life! 
They just won't see it like this if care is not taken to dot all the 
"i's" and cross all the "t's". I'm sure very sure as I know Oregonians 
they will see it as exploitation.

It's a good bet the negative publicity stemming from such an endeavor 
would not go well for cryonics. Even so I still plan, if need arises, to 
take advantage of that law. I just hope first that it won't be necessary 
but if it is that it will be so far down the road from now that everyone 
will be much more enlightened than they are now, or cryonics will be 
long past accepted, and see the benefit for me.

James

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