X-Message-Number: 24172 Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 10:23:30 -0400 From: Thomas Donaldson <> Subject: CryoNet #24160 - #24164 For Mike Price! Good message --- no matter what the Cryonet evaluation system says (I have problems with that CES, but that's a whole different question). Glad you saw fit to post it --- even though the drugs you discuss fail my primary test for an antiaging drug (in A GUIDE TO ANTIAGING DRUGS). Some of them I plan to put in my Appendix 2, "Drugs Waiting in the Wings", for an Update I am (too slowly) getting together. Acetyl carnitine is already discussed ther, so I can hardly add it. As for the "modern" work with similar genes, etc, it gives us a reason to do a lifespan test with healthy mice or rats, but still remains weaker than such a test. Ideally, of course, we want a test on human beings, but we'll all have died of aging if we sit around waiting for such a test. And yes, those who want to discuss how our brain works and differs or does not differ from computers (present, hoped for, future, speculated about computers), I'm back after my absence producing the next (now the present) issue of PERIASTRON. I hope that those of you who subscribe will find it interesting. The main article comes from papers of G Fahy and B Wowk, and discusses (guess what?) vitrification. And I have an editorial which gives my opinion about vitrification, which may offend lots of cryonicists or maybe not. Best wishes and long long life to all, Thomas Donaldson Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=24172