X-Message-Number: 24240 From: <> Subject: Immortalist organizations seeking wisdom Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:24:25 -0700 John deRivaz wrote: There have been recent messages concerning resignations etc from yet another "Immortalist" group. There seem to be a lot of these groups, and however carefully constituted, they seem to have these problems. > John, could a root cause be the dang fallible primates who run these organizations? you continue: Yet the enemy is death or even more broadly put, this uncaring creation that has individuals ageing, sickening and dying. I seem to recall a story about Abraham Lincoln picking up an bundle of stocks and showing how hard it is to break the whole bundle as opposed to breaking each stick individually. This story may well be a myth, but it does show how all this fragmentation and discord does the overall "cause" no good at all. > You just don't want to pick up a bundle of sticks and cut yourself because some of them have razor sharp thorns! you continue: I have no idea what the answer is, but maybe those seeking to form another of these groups should consult the writings of President Lincoln to seek a solution. > I think their preferred reading would be Machiavelli and definitely not President Lincoln. Come to think of it they might very much love the writings of Cromwell with a little bit of Peron and Franco sprinkled on top. I just hope Ventureville & the Venturists can avoid having its own Cultural Revolution... But I am convinced Chairman Pizer will be able to keep us safe from ourselves (if he goes into the big shiny dewar watch the future simians on the board *currently as far as I know we only have enlightened human beings on it* scream and fight over control of resources). Dave, PLEASE take good care of yourself!! Best, John : ) Rate This Message: http://www.cryonet.org/cgi-bin/rate.cgi?msg=24240